Subj : Re: EVs
To   : Adept
From : poindexter FORTRAN
Date : Sun Oct 22 2023 09:41 am

-=> Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

 Ad> And San Francisco is _much_ too crowded for cars to reliably be much
 Ad> fun to have around. I lived in the vicinity for a bit, and, yeah, you
 Ad> _can_ have a car, but you'll invariably end up paying expensive parking
 Ad> tickets for one reason or another.

I went to SFSU and afterwards worked/lived in the city for 10 years. Had
a car the whole time. Paid a lot in parking tickets, being in my 20s I'd
always miss what was the 1st and 3rd sunday between 1:00am and 5:00am
and get a street cleaning ticket.

Friends of mine took the bus and rented cars when they needed one. I
thought the price of renting a car was high, but over the year it was
cheaper than parking tickets!

The sad thing is I didn't really *need* a car for much in the city,
except dating and furnishing an apartment. Meeting friends out for a
drink, I'd usually walk or take the bus and not worry about driving
home.

 Ad> I'm sad that BART doesn't cover more areas. E.g., New York seems to
 Ad> have multiple redundant lines, and the SF side of things does is a
 Ad> mish-mash of MUNI trains and buses. E.g., if you want to take BART into
 Ad> the City, but want to go to Fisherman's Wharf / Pier 39 for a tourist
 Ad> experience, you'll likely have to pop out at the last stop before the
 Ad> bay, then get on a 1930s-era museum street car that's half experience
 Ad> and half public transit. (and, no, I do not mean the famous trolleys.
 Ad> These are different pieces of old equipment, brought from Italy or
 Ad> elsewhere.)

The reality is that San Franciscans rarely used to leave SF. They felt
like they had everything they could want in the City, so why leave?



 Ad> Or else walk for 40 minutes, and have to walk back later.

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