Subj : Re: EVs To : Adept From : poindexter FORTRAN Date : Sat Oct 28 2023 08:34 am -=> Adept wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=- Ad> It's also kinda weird, with SF -- it's not _especially_ hilly, if you Ad> stick to the outside bits on the east and north. But if you go over the Ad> center portions, it's... frightening for someone who's from a cold Ad> place and imagines the place with ice. I could see how it would be in the back of your mind if you grew up with it. I hate driving up to Lake Tahoe at night, when the temp gets below 32 I imagine black ice on all of the bridges (which ice up first). I lived in an area we called Baja Pacific Heights, and I used to run up the hill and back down to the Marina, down through Golden Gate Park to the beach, and over the hill and across the Golden Gate Bridge into Sausalito. I got used to hills. I ran one of my usual routes with a friend who ran on the flats in the peninsula and he was out of gas at the first hill - didn't realize how hilly SF was until he ran it! .... Define an area as 'safe' and use it as an anchor --- MultiMail/Win v0.52 * Origin: realitycheckBBS.org -- information is power. (21:4/122) .