Subj : Re: RIP Niklaus Wirth To : Dr. What From : Adept Date : Fri Feb 09 2024 04:42 pm DW> They may not be the best teachers, but they do have more knowledge than DW> a teacher who has never had a "real job". It does seem like something that might be ideal as guest lecturers of some sort. But always kind of hard to say what would be best, at least without lots of well-designed studies. And who knows how one _tests_ for such things. DW> don't prepare you for that. And for geeky people, that prepartion would DW> have been very useful. True, though I'm not sure how much I understood the _academic_ world. But I'm probably not the best example, as I've never had too much of a problem with being able to understand people, or how to communicate in different situations. Sure, plenty of other issues, but my geekiness in growing up was that I spent a lot of time on BBSing message boards, while my brother spent a lot of time in the file section or the various other things that didn't involve random people as much. DW> They were bored until I told them that they could program the computer DW> to do their math homework. They had so much fun that they didn't DW> realize that they worked harder to write that program than the would DW> have done just doing the homework. Neat! I do remember, in my Physics class, where we could put stuff onto the calculator as notes for whatever we were doing. So I wrote a program for a particular set of problems, which, of course, meant that I knew the formula _really_ well, rather than it being remotely useful as a cheat sheet. Did keep me from making calculation mistakes on the test, though, I'm sure. And, on the teaching side of things, I was a guest in a high school Computer Science class where the students spent a couple of weeks making a theme for library self checkouts, where I gave them instructions on how, but they made all the files and whatnot, that I eventually put on the self checkouts. I think it was well-received. Or at least they liked it enough that they made some neat things. DW> And I found that you can't get people to think in certain ways. The DW> best you can do is explain things in many different ways, hoping that DW> one will stick. Yeah. Best to meet people where they are, and hopefully add to their tree of knowledge given the branches that they already have. --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64) * Origin: Storm BBS (21:2/108) .