Subj : Re: Amber or Green (was 286s) To : Skylar From : tenser Date : Mon Apr 22 2024 12:41 am On 20 Apr 2024 at 07:32p, Skylar pondered and said... Sk> I started using UALR's VAX in 1986. UALR got on BITNET in 1988, I think, Sk> and then was the second university in the state to get Internet in 1990. This implies those VAXen were running VMS? Ah, JNET. There was also a Unix implementation of RSCS that ran on at least Data General machines under DG-UX, called "UREP". BITNET relays were the prototype for IRC. Sk> > Lots of those ADM3a terminals in 3 computer labs. Sk> Sk> In the mid-to-late 80s, UALR had two computer labs for VAX access with Sk> VT220 terminals. Their VAX was a cluster of four 11/780s. Sk> Sk> > 4 hardwired ports and 6 ports hooked up to a dial-up port selector. Sk> Sk> Yikes. There were VT220 terminals all over UALR, as the system was used Sk> for both administrative work and academic classes. I want to say there Sk> are 24 modems, although I my memory could be way off. There were Sk> certainly more than 6. Those same phone lines/modems were used to access Sk> the BBS, although the BBS could only be accessed on one of the trunk Sk> lines. DEC sold several products that could help here, among them the DECserver 100 (and later model) terminal servers. These were little boxes with an Ethernet, a bunch of serial lines, and a microcontroller and some RAM. They booted off of the network, from a VAX (or whatever could speak the MOP protocol) and let locally connected terminals connect to a "host" computer (e.g., a VAX, but also a PDP-11 or perhaps a PDP-10) over the Ethernet, using e.g. the LAT protocol. It was an evolution of the TIP idea from the ARPAnet, a decade prior. Eventually they might have gained the ability to speak TCP/IP and perhaps TELNET, but I can't remember anymore; I haven't touched one in years. Anyway, the point is that by using these as terminal concentrators, you could support vastly more terminals than, say, a VAX could support serial ports for, even with DZ11 and DL11 boards (the former were awful because they had no buffering, and interrupted the host for every character received or transmitted). --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101) .