Subj : Re: X86S To : poindexter FORTRAN From : tenser Date : Fri Apr 26 2024 06:06 am On 25 Apr 2024 at 06:56a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said... pF> -=> tenser wrote to Spectre <=- pF> pF> te> That was kind of what the OEMs all wanted, which meant that pF> te> the desktop market and low-end servers all went x86_64, and pF> te> Itanium was relegated to the high-end, where it only had pF> te> marginal market penetration. Eventually, x86_64 took over pF> te> there, too (at least by volume), in part thanks to the pF> te> hyperscalars paving the way for large-scale x86 deployment pF> te> in server environments. pF> pF> It seems lots of people underestimated the power of lots of cheap Intel pF> boxes. Central Computers in San Francisco was my idea of an auto-scaling pF> group - traffic increases on the web site? I could call them and get a pF> server built in 24 hours. They were 4 blocks away. pF> pF> The year before we'd been running Sun for both the database and front-end pF> of a web site using some Netscap web server - the following year the pF> front-end was all cheap white boxes running Apache on Linux. 100% this. Google started out going down that road, but then the need to scale hit them in the pocketbook and they realized that they could scale _horizontally_ by buying lots and lots of cheap, shitty computers and putting them into racks themselves. You didn't _need_ a big Sun Ultra Enterprise E10k machine with all sorts of redundancies baked in, and for the pricetag of that one box, you could buy 10x more in raw compute capacity in cheap PCs. You also didn't need a super expensive Oracle database to run it all. And if one of those machines crashes? Oh well, you've got 999 more that'll keep running. Eventually someone will wander through the data center and reboot the ones that crashed. Of course, it helped that search is an embarrassingly parallel problem. And nowadays Google datacenter machines are marvels of modern engineering that you can't buy on the open market (but you can buy similar machines from Oxide!). --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64) * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101) .