Subj : this echo To : David Calafrancesco From : Mike Luther Date : Sun Oct 14 2001 07:35 am Hi Dave .. DC> Hello all! DC> Is there still interest in keeping this echo? If not, DC> then we need to look into a graceful shutdown. If DC> there is interest in keeping it, then we need to get DC> people using it. Looking back over the roster of the last 150 messages, it shows that the echo is apparently used for problem solving for tools that relate OS/2 to the Internet. What happens is that problems that show up in them are,thankfully, fewish and far betweenish, it seems! The topics that show up here thus come in spurts with dead air in between. That's somewhat like the Aviation Echo! To which there is an old aviation tale about flying being hours and hours of boredom with occaisional minutes of sheer terror! One reason it might be a good idea to keep the echo, even though there is minimal traffic might be that OS/2 might actually experience a somewhat spurt in new interest! There are a rather substantial number of folks out there who are little folk in the scheme of things. They have a box at home,a couple of them .. or so, or .. are running small systems for proprieterships of one kind or othere. They are very much wringing their hands over the new Microsoft policy of wrenching a substantial sum out of their pocketbooks on a fairly regular basis which has just, apparently, taken a quantum leap with XP. I personally know over a dozen who simply, to they think, can't afford to deal with the M/S creature any longer, Whether that is a realistic outlook or not is another matter. As in beauty, ugliness is also in the eye of the beholder! I personally know more than one such party who is busy trying to learn enough about OS/2 to either put it up for the first time, or had it way back in version 2.0 or early 3.0 and dropped it. Of course, they face the EOSL of Warp 4.0 and a somewhat cost of keeping OS/2 as well. But they are also looking at ODIN, what have you. Like it or not, IBM and OS/2 still never have done the user-install and get me up and running gee-whiz wasn't that easy that Microsoft did for Windows! You have to give M/S credit for doing a far better job at that, I think. Of course we can argue all day long about what doesn't stay working once you install it, but ... as the years have gone by what used to be roaring instability has been solved, somewhat .. viri not withstanding, one would think. The people who do take another look at OS/2 will still face the same problems in INET relationships that many of us have faced and found answers here, I suspect. I could have, for example, tossed the recent thread on viri and OS/2 into this echo instead of starting it in the generalized one. That was,probably, looking back on it, a bad error on my part. The issue was a toss-up between networking and OS/2 and INET and OS/2. As we are seeing,there is a bluring of the two concepts at this point, isn't there? The whole issue of DSL and connectivity with OS/2 is producing a fair amount of traffic in the Usegroups now. That as DSL and other broadband stuff move closer and closer to more of us. Isn't this the right place for that stuff too? Or are my perceptions off base? --> Sleep well; OS/2's still awake! ;) Mike @ 1:117/3001 --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Ziplog Public Port (1:117/3001) .