JQ Johnson Feb 25 1993, 2:23 pm Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher From: j...@duff.uoregon.edu (JQ Johnson) - Find messages by this author Date: 25 Feb 1993 19:23:55 GMT Local: Thurs, Feb 25 1993 2:23 pm Subject: Re: gopher licensing Reply to Author | Forward | Print | View Thread | Show original | Report Abuse I am quite concerned about the licensing stance described by Mark Cahill in his recent posting to this news group. Although I understand and even endorse the goals of U Minn's development group in recouping its costs by taxing commercial use, I'm concerned that the policies as stated are sufficiently vague to scare off lots of people. I was pleased to see in the Network World article that U Minn plans to allow "free use of its client/ server software as long as the information on the server is made available free of charge on the Internet." I think this is a very reasonable and pragmatic definition of "commerical use." However, it's not a statement by U Minn, and it's not legalese. I'll hold my breath until I see the educational-use contract I expect to need to sign with the U. of Minn. Absent such a contract, I'll need to disassemble my gopher server, since our university, like many, makes some information available only on-campus due to licensing restrictions. As an example of another remaining problem, it is not clear to me just what is claimed to be copyright. Certainly the document describing the gopher protocol. Certainly the source code for the various clients developed at U Minn (note that this includes derivative works including all the bug fixes contributed by the rest of us). I have no problems with this. However, is it U Minn's position that the protocol itself is protected? How about independently developed clients and servers? We in the networking community and in the "open systems" community are stuck with a few proprietary protocols. Examples include IPX and DECnet. But there is a very strong sentiment that protocols should be public and freely available, even if implementations are protected. The successful ones in the Internet community are the ones that are non-proprietary; look at Sun's NFS for a nice clear example of this success. We've been burned by vendor-proprietary protocols in the past. If the University of Minnesota planned to try to make the gopher protocol proprietary, then I for one would start looking for an alternative, and would stop contributing to the gopher development effort. -- JQ Johnson Office: 250E Computing Center Director of Network Services Internet: j...@ns.uoregon.edu University Computing, Univ. of Oregon voice: (503) 346-1746 Eugene, OR 97403-1212 fax: (503) 346-4397