Subj : Re: US White House urges
To   : Nightfox
From : calcmandan
Date : Sun Apr 28 2024 02:20 am

On 12 Apr 2024, Nightfox said the following...
 
 Ni>   Re: Re: US White House urges
 Ni>   By: calcmandan to Nightfox on Fri Apr 12 2024 03:47 am
 Ni> 
 Ni>  ca> It's not a new sentiment. People have been saying this for years. I l
 Ni>  ca> to stick with old standards that have stood the test of time. I can't
 Ni>  ca> count how many new languages have popped up the last decade... Almost
 Ni>  ca> of them will be remembered. C++ is a very robust language, and the
 Ni>  ca> trade-off is complexity.
 Ni> 
 Ni> I like C++ too, but as someone who works in the industry, it seems like
 Ni> you can't stick to older things for too long. There are many teams who
 Ni> have moved to other languages in place of C++ and have been doing so for
 Ni> a long time.  For desktop software on Windows, where C++ used to often
 Ni> be used, it seems to me that C# is often a preferred language now. 
 Ni> Also, while not C++, the Linux kernel has historically been written in
 Ni> C, but recently I've heard they've been starting to code with Rust for
 Ni> the Linux kernel.  I still see some software developer jobs with C++ and
 Ni> C, but not a whole lot these days.

Valid points. It's agreed that things will go away over time and I'm sure a day will come where C++ no longer has offerings on college campuses. And while it is quite true that the adoption of other languages have been increasing over the years, the symptom of it is that the relevant institutions had the choice in doing so. The government didn't mandate it, unless it were listed as a requirement on a contract somewhere, but that's neither here nor there.

Of course, as new technologies come into the field, they may have demands that require the utility of other development platforms. I don't know if it will ever be possible or appropriate to develop a website with C++. It simply cannot fulfill the context which HTML and other web languages provide. Now would browsers understand it even if tried.

My problem is that the government wants to step in and provide guidance - as if it's suddenly an arbiter of good industry practice. The industry will decide on its own what it should and shouldn't utilize, as you've stated.

I'd be interested in seeing what the C++ consortium does for later revisions to adapt and maintain relevance.

C++ is like radio - a tried and true technology that will never, truly, go away.

On another note, I do like Rust. One big thing out of the firefox world I really like.

Sorry for the wall of text.

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