Subj : Re: Gaming (Windows) PC: buil To : Tracker1 From : poindexter FORTRAN Date : Tue Jul 20 2021 07:20 am -=> Tracker1 wrote to Brian Rogers <=- Tr> Dell are effectively hot garbage e-waste... half the parts in newer Tr> systems are completely proprietary, even the power supply and Tr> motherboards on many of them right now. And while some are 12V only, Tr> they aren't the new standard even. It's a shame. I loved the old Precision workstations - built like tanks, I had one running for 12 years here. The Optiplex 9XXX series towers were nice low-end "servers", with onboard RAID and the ability to have 32 GB of RAM in 2010. I'd max them out on RAM, put 2 SATA drives in them, and use them as departmental servers or high-end desktops. They did have a couple of black marks at the same time - the GX270 desktops that popped the caps nearest the power supply vent, and the D630 laptops that fried their video chipsets. Dell's solution for the former was to send out replacement motherboards with the same problem and a BIOS update for the latter that just ran the fan 100% of the time. .... Powered By Celeron (Tualatin). Engineered for the future. --- MultiMail/DOS v0.52 þ Synchronet þ .: realitycheckbbs.org :: scientia potentia est :. .