Subj : How far I've come...
To   : MRO
From : Moondog
Date : Fri Jan 27 2023 01:42 pm

  Re: How far I've come...
  By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Thu Jan 26 2023 08:47 pm

 >   Re: How far I've come...
 >   By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Jan 26 2023 04:32 pm
 > 
 >  > > china does it better. my former company tried for almo
 >  > > st 10 years to have an american made company make something simple with
 >  > la
 >  > >  for a decent price.
 >  >
 >  > It is difficult to make something of the same quality at the same price
 >  > point when the entity you are competing against pays their employees so
 >  > much less and can also use slave labor from the re-education camps.
 >  >
 >  >
 > 
 > i'm not even sure that what we say about china is right anymore.
 > it could just be propaganda.
 > 
 > some companies here in the usa don't pay people enough. the other day i saw 
 > 
 > I don't think we're at the point where china makes cheap junk.
 > 
 > personally i have seen it better and cheaper from china. american companies 
 > o not trust.  china is just better at everything.
 > everyone snoozed and losed.

The technology has gone up in the last 30 years.  I have a friend always goes
the cheap route, and I assume it's because he's never tried or owned
something with premium quality and workamnship.  Most big game hunters and
competition shooter spend as much on the optics and mounts as they do on thei
r rifle.  He, on the other hand, would buy the cheapest no name scope and
mount he could find.  Back in the late 90's a cheap scope base could be told
apart from a good one from a distance.  The screws would have coarse threads
that looked like they were made on one of Eli Whitney's first lathes during
the 1800's.  The metal would be cheap as well.  Soft, allowing for stripped
threads and snapped off screws or bolts.

The more modern stuff is held to better specs, and so are the fasteners.  The 
metalurgy is still off.  AL380 or 6061 versus 7075 aluminum.  While you won't
notice the difference on a range queen firearm, you'll appreciate the quality
better on a hunt or situation where things get banged around and re expected 
to keep their zero.

There is still a difference between the real low end and high end gear, but
there is also several items that fall somewhere in between with regards to
price and quality.  China can produce good stuff if held accountable for it. 
I know of a gear dealer that has optics and mounts built to order in China,
and if it doesn't meet his QA standards, he'll stop payment and turn away
shipments.  Vendors pay attention when they don't get paid.

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