Subj : How far I've come... To : MOONDOG From : Rob Mccart Date : Thu Feb 02 2023 01:18 am RM> Admittedly, at one time, they were needed and in some places they maybe > still are, but I always found that hard workers are difficult to find so > most companies take pretty good care to keep them happy because there are > always other offers out there. MO>I worked at a salaried job, then the plant shut down and relocated the repair >service department to the main plant. The main plant was a "closed shop" >beyond the double doors heading out to the plant floor, so we were given the >option to be integrated in the union or to find another job. MO>At first we thought being unionized was repressive, but later on we saw how m >ch certain supervisiors would try to make up conflicting policies depending >on favoritism or perception... Yes, dpending on the place Union stuff can be all over the place. They help in companies that will walk all over their employees cutting corners wherever possible, but the also can stifle productivity when working harder doesn't get you anywhere because wages are set in stone based on time worked there and it's often near impossible to fire someone for being lazy. One place I worked at, when I was in the plant on my own, I actually set a world record in production - multiple branches on 3 continents - and as we grew I treated the people I was now supervising much better than the other divisions did and production stayed well up there, although we had to hide when people were between jobs 'slacking off' because when more work came in a day than we could reasonably be expected to handle, we would also all work our tails off and get it done. If you push people all the time, their only intelligent recourse is to work slower. That all came to a crashing halt a couple of years later when a Union got into the company. I left and the others changed their attitude and a large number of customers were lost.. and our biggest competitor heard that I'd left and offered me 50% more money if I would go work for them. Why I didn't take that job is a long story but it shows that when you do exceptional work usually people know about it and are willing to pay well for that person. That said, if the company is Huge, it's much harder to stand out and often exceptional results are taken by the higher ups as their doing, not crediting any individual(s). Often management is a victim of the "Peter Principal. There are a couple of definitions of that but the one I refer to is that a person will rise in a company to just beyond the level of their competence, suggesting Most managers are incompetent at their jobs. B) --- þ SLMR Rob þ Save changes before exit? (Y)es (N)o (W)hat changes? þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP .