Subj : How far I've come...
To   : ROB MCCART
From : Cougar428
Date : Tue Feb 07 2023 11:20 pm

-=> Quoting Rob Mccart to Cougar428 <=-

 CO>Not trying to be contentious, but instead of watching and talking
 >about the situation - is there something you would do differenty if
 >you were the one in charge?
 
 CO>In a lot of places, what I would see is people sitting on the
 >sidelines complaining about how the business was being managed, but
 >never really stepping up to try and change things in a better way.

 RM> Have you ever tried to tell your boss that he's doing something wrong?
 RM> And the problem with incompetent bosses is they are paranoid about
 RM> losing their jobs so they will either ignore you, tell you to shut up,
 RM> or try to get rid of you in case higher-ups realize there is someone
 RM> smarter than them available to do the job.

Actually I have.  The last 3 places I worked had a management open
door policy.  The first job I ended up leaving when the
suggestions I made had the effect you noted above.  The second
actually listened to me, but I moved on and found a better job.

The last place was enthusiastic about doing things better, so they
would evaluate and try suggestions.  Some worked, some didn't.  I
made some suggestions that improved my ability to help workers (IT
Support), but I have retired after working for 50+ years.

 RM> I say all that with a smile. I didn't intend for it to sound
 RM> confrontatonal with you since I agree with your basic idea. 
 
You don't sound confrontational, but thanks for letting me know.
Hey if we can't discuss things rationally, how are we ever going to
argue about things?  B^)

 RM> I told him to leave it to me and I'd find a way, and he did that
 RM> rather than trying to micro-manage how I did the work. I did manage it,
 RM> basically doing about 8 or 10 hours of production in 5 hours.

Sounds like you came through with the goods!  That's great as long
as they don't expect you to do more with less as a rule of thumb.
I've gotten bitten by that dog a number of times.  The boss sounds
like he trusted his people.

 RM> In the end I stopped working for other people by the time I was 32. If
 RM> you are your own boss you only have to answer to the customers and, in
 RM> most of the jobs I did, my customers actually paid me more than I asked
 RM> for so that I would be readily available for them when they needed me
 RM> again. 

Now there's the ticket!  I wish I was as resourceful as you seem to
be. Thanks for the reply!

Cougar

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