Subj : For you SBBS Sysops o To : Accession From : Arelor Date : Sun Jun 30 2024 05:55 pm Re: For you SBBS Sysops o By: Accession to Gamgee on Sat Jun 29 2024 07:22 am > Not sure what you have against systemd. I gladly switched over when it was > introduced, and have never had an issue. A lot less scripting involved, > that's for sure. I like bootup scripts. The real problem with systemd is not how it manages booting. The problem is it was conceived from the get-go as a tool from the Red Hat ecosystem to take over strategical userspace components of the Linux sphere (such as sudo, syslogd, the myriad seat managers, you name them). Since it was a political tool it was used politically and many software projects started adopting it as a required dependency well before they had technical reasons to do so (such as when Gnome announced it would classify it as a blessed dependency). SystemD is like the Seamonkey web-browser: a semi-modular solution that incorporates lots of functions not related to its declared purpose at all. Sometimes that is exactly what you need, and that is fine. Sometimes you only need a web browser and would rather use Netsurf. The problem is lots of software projects jumped the gun for no very good (official) reason and made it hard for everybody to use anything but SystemMonkeyD... current systemdless solutions that actually work exist due only to massive effort from the FOSS community. BTW there are enough pieces of circumpstancial evidence to suggest systemd's blessed side effect was to cripple the BSD ecosystem explicitly. Not that it is working that well. The BSDs have a tendency not to try to be Linux. -- gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken --- þ Synchronet þ Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL .