Subj : Hamas & Israel
To   : Alex Shuman
From : alexander koryagin
Date : Mon Mar 18 2024 09:11 am

Hi, Alex Shuman!
I read your message from 15.03.2024 21:17

  ak>>>> Surrender can be different. If less idiots have been in Kiev
  ak>>>> they could have ordered the Ukrainian army not to do a single
  ak>>>> shot.
  AS>>> If less idiots have been in Kremlin they could have ordered the
  AS>>> Russian army not to enter Crimea and other parts of Ukraine in
  AS>>> 2014...
  ak>> Lawful, elected President of Ukraine had been outthrown by the
  ak>> mob,

  AS> No, it was revolution, after he ran away from his people.

"Revolution" is another word for "coup" or mutiny. BTW, the attempt of 
capture the Capitol, after Trump losing the elections, is very similar 
event and is considered in the USA as a heavy crime. Again, we can note, 
that for some people in the USA it was not a crime. Similarily, the 
Ukrainian nationalists from western Ukraine don't think they commit a 
crime. But as a rule every revolution causes a civil war.

Again and again -- law is very important!  Yushchenko won Ukrainian 
president elections in 2005 (defeating Yanukovich), and then _everybody_ 
in Ukraine excepted it. Because it was a legal event. Russia also had no 
motive to to interfere.

  ak>> could not pass without consequence. As I said before here -- the
  ak>> people who elected the outthrown President from Crimea, southern
  ak>> and eastern Ukraine had full right to be outraged, do not accept
  ak>> new authority in Kiev and even fight against it, especially when
  ak>> they became the target of the military suppression by the
  ak>> Ukrainian army.

  AS> It was not the native people, it was paramilitary Russian groups,
  AS> then Russian army.

Protasov told me about a group of 50 paramilitaries who entered Ukraine 
then. But it was in vain, unless local people fight also. As for the 
real Russian army -- it was not in Donbass until 2022 because there are 
no reports it used aviation, long range rockets as it does now. It is 
funny to think than somebody sends his army to somewhere and prohibits 
it using heavy weapon.

  ak>> Russia could not stay away, whoever was in power there, unless it
  ak>> lost conscience and proud not defending those Russians in Ukraine.

  AS> They could have just accepted all those Russians back, not to
  AS> invade foreign country.

If to be true, it must be said that during the USSR time at least 40 
percent people in Ukraine were Russian people. After Ukraine became 
independent they were ordered ;-) to consider themselves as Ukrainians 
and it was the shame and a time bomb. In short it is a crazy idea to 
suggest to millions of Russians in Ukraine go to Russia. They live on 
their own land and defend it.

Bye, Alex!
Alexander Koryagin
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