Subj : Hamas & Israel
To   : alexander koryagin
From : Alex Shuman
Date : Tue Mar 26 2024 12:54 am


 x) Monday Mar 18, 2024, 09:11. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

 AS>> No, it was revolution, after he ran away from his people.
 ak> "Revolution" is another word for "coup" or mutiny.

It depends... This one was certainly people's will and not a military coup.

 ak>  BTW, the attempt of
 ak> capture the Capitol, after Trump losing the elections, is very similar
 ak> event and is considered in the USA as a heavy crime.

It because they were minority (most of people did not support their ways) and 
attacked government buildings instead of peaceful protest.

 ak> Again and again -- law is very important!  Yushchenko won Ukrainian
 ak> president elections in 2005 (defeating Yanukovich), and then _everybody_
 ak> in Ukraine excepted it. Because it was a legal event. Russia also had no
 ak> motive to to interfere.

Then Yanukovich won, then people got tired of him and his anti-people politics, 
then Russia decided to interfere.

 AS>> It was not the native people, it was paramilitary Russian groups,
 AS>> then Russian army.
 ak> Protasov told me about a group of 50 paramilitaries who entered
 ak> Ukraine then. But it was in vain, unless local people fight also. As
 ak> for the real Russian army -- it was not in Donbass until 2022 because
 ak> there are no reports it used aviation, long range rockets as it does
 ak> now. It is funny to think than somebody sends his army to somewhere
 ak> and prohibits it using heavy weapon.

Most of fighters were from Russia. They used Russian weapons.

 ak>>> Russia could not stay away, whoever was in power there, unless it
 ak>>> lost conscience and proud not defending those Russians in Ukraine.
 AS>> They could have just accepted all those Russians back, not to
 AS>> invade foreign country.
 ak> If to be true, it must be said that during the USSR time at least 40
 ak> percent people in Ukraine were Russian people. After Ukraine became
 ak> independent they were ordered ;-) to consider themselves as Ukrainians
 ak> and it was the shame and a time bomb. In short it is a crazy idea to
 ak> suggest to millions of Russians in Ukraine go to Russia. They live on
 ak> their own land and defend it.

Well, they either could go to Russia or accept their Ukrainian citizenship, not 
to invite Russia to start a colonial war. Also, don't mix Russian-speaking 
people with Russian citizens.

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