Subj : Re: It seems there are various different To : Ward Dossche From : John Dovey Date : Fri May 28 2021 12:58 am Glad to see you, Ward! WD> John, WD> WD> A personal observation ... WD> WD> JD> Seeing as this is "Future4Fido" though, one of the fundamental concepts WD> JD> about conceptulising the future is to evaluate the present and WD> JD> considering what we are doing and why, and think about how or why we WD> JD> should do that in the future. WD> WD> You use the 'we'-word often ... the fact is 'design by committee' does not work. The only thing that ever brought some change to Fidonet is someone having an idea and developing it him/herself and then some people liking where-after it takes flight. WD> WD> You sound a little bit like a consultant ... that's not necessarily meant in a bad way but consultants are in the business of selling wind. WD> WD> I can't remember how old this echo is, but for the 15 or more years it has existed there was a lot of wind and zero result. Eventually you'll learn "the why" ... nobody gives a shite. WD> WD> \%/@rd Cool. I thought that here we were just tossing around ideas. That's the "we" I'm referring to.. the we is those of us in this echo as a group. I completely understand that innovation and change will *actually* come from someone who goes out and makes it happen. Writes the software in this instance, We'll see how that pans out, I like coding. I'll play around with some things, see what works for me. If I come up with something useful, I'll put it out there. If it gets picked up, fantastic. If not, no worries. I have some reasons to be involved in all this. They're personal to my situation and goals. I'll do what I need to to achieve my goals. I haven't determined yet exactly what that will eventually involve. Whether using the standard FTN utils or writing new ones will best serve. If not, and I have to write some new tools, then I'll do so. It might mean creating an "othernet" but either way I'll share my experiences and anything I do with the people who are interested in it, and if that's of some value then that's a bonus. Speaking of that, one of the core issues I have is one I would expect to be critical to almost everyone involved; that is to grow the user base. The more eyeballs the better generally. That might not be universally the case however, I am learning, with some seemingly wanting to only recreate a nostalgic experience from two or three decades back and resisting any talk of rethinking the paradigm. That's absolutely fine. Change Management *IS* something I got paid a lot of money to consult on. (Together with Knowledge Management; especially making inherent knowledge tacit). In a lot of ways I much preferred my other (parallel) career. When you shoot people they stop talking ? *** [Netmail-to-Telegram address: 474405162@2:460/256] .... Tag, you are IT! --- tg BBS v0.6.4 * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS from Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/256) .