Subj : Early AVO Valve Tester To : WW From : G8MNY Date : Wed Sep 04 2019 11:02 pm G8MNY TECH 04.09.19 05:55l 160 Lines 8372 Bytes #365 (0) @ WW BID : 20144_GB7CIP Subj: Early AVO Valve Tester Path: OK0NBR F3KT CX2SA GB7CIP Sent: 190904/0836Z @:GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO #:20144 [Caterham Surrey GBR] From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO To : TECH@WW By G8MNY (Corrrections May 17) (8 Bit ASCII graphics use code page 437 or 850, Terminal Font) This early tester (1941) has no model number, but the 2 units that make it up look something like this.. Holder ÉÍÍÍÍ» Tester ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄп ºÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ The tester panel The valve holder ³()Ú¿()³ Úд ³~~~~~~~~~³ ³ has 6 rotary pot panel has 14/15 ³()³______³()³ ÀÄ´ ³ `\ ³ ³ or switches for types of valve ³ o) ³ ³ ~~~~~~~~~ ³ setting to the base & a large ³( )( )( )( )³ ³ db ø db ³ electrode volts, 9 way thumb ³ ³ ³ ³ test modes, a wheel switches. ³( )( )( )( )³ ³ db O db ³ neon continuity ³ ³ ³ (o) ³ test lamp & a ³( )( )( )( )³ ³ db . o . db ³ test lever. ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÒÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ mains Valve Bases catered for are B7G,B9A,MO,IO,P,P5,B9,B7,B5/4,UX7,UX5,UX4, & 7. (some added after 1941) I have even wired up the odd 4CX250B socket, but HTs are too low for real tests! TESTER CIRCUIT As the switching is quite complex, a diagram it needed to do any faulting. ___________________________________________________________ º(________________ 22V ³ ³ ³ º __ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ)ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ260êÙo ³ º(__ o250 ³ SET /³\ Off ³ Anode º(__ o200 ³ ZERO \³/ ³ Transformer º(__ o150 ANODE ³ ÚÄ1k5 o ³ ____ º(__ o125 ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ)ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ)ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄo ÄÄÄÄ´ ³ )º(__ ÚÄo100 o250 0.4ê _³_ SELECT ÚoCins ³ ³ ___)º(__ ³ o80 o200 ÃÄÄÄÄÄÄo100mA /_\ ANODE ³ ³ ³³ º(__ ³ÚoRec Âo150 À10êÄÄÂo mA/V ³ D2oÄÄÄD2 ³ ³ ³³ º(__ ³³oD ÀoPen 47ê ÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄ D1oÄÄÄD1 ³ ³ ³³ º(__ ³³³ o100 SCREEN ³SETmA/V A2oÄÄÄA2 ³ ³ ³³ º(___560êÄ))Ù Âo80 Ä¿ 38ê NormaloÄÄÄA1 ³ ³ ³³ º(____ ³³ ³o75 ³ +ÃÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ ³ ³³ º(__ ÃÄÄÄ))Ä¿ ³o60 SCR meter ===220u ³ ³ ³³ º( ³ o ³³ o mA/V³ yel ÀÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ)ÄÄ oÄÄÙ EÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ))ÄÄÄÄ´ÀÄÄ)Äo ÄÄ))Äo ÄÄ¿ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ´ÃÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ oÄÄ¿ Ú220kÄ´³ ÃÄÄÄ´ ³³ ³ 50nF Cins³ Neon ³³ ³ ³ ³³ ³ ³ o test³³ ³ÚÄÄ)ÄÄÄÄÄÙ³ G1 ³ /prods³³ º(_Ú)Ä91êÄÄÙ Tester Socket ³ o ³³ º(__³______________________GND gn o A1 ³ ³ on ³³ _ º ³ Cathode G1 o o A2 ³ LÄ)Ä/oÄÄÁ)Ä ð)º(ð40V o oCins SCR o o D1 ³ 100k ³ )º(ð Heater /³\ o o ³ NÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÙ º(ð ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄgn H+ ³ GND o o D2 ³ Heater º(ð Volts ³ H+ H- ³ Transformerº(ð2v H- ³ ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ The transformer HT - switch connections are too complex to draw here. The un- loaded windings are not the same voltage as the switch would indicate, & the screen voltages are also different to the anode voltages! The unit tests valves with AC power. So prolonged soak testing of large power valves will overheat the unit, as the HT transformer will saturated with DC. The half wave valve load on the HT transformer may explain the nead for over voltages so the valve warms up properly! N.B. Two of the anode voltages come from the heater transformer! THUMB WHEELS Care must be taken when selecting the 9 valve pin thumb wheels to correct 10 option valve electrode connection. Plug in S G A electrode wander lead connections available for top cap & side screw types. This must be done with the POWER OFF as any mistake may destroy the valve or damage the tester! THUMB WHEEL SOCKET VALVE 0 = Earth 5 5 1 = Cathode ALWAYS DOUBLE 6 4 4 6 2 = Heaters - CHECK ELECTRODE 7 3 3 7 3 = Heaters + VALVE BASE 8 2 2 8 (G) 4 = Grid (G1) CONNECTIONS! 9 1 1 9 (S) 5 = Screen (G2) PIN NUMBERING CONVENTION (A) 6 = Anode 1 Normal \ 2 2 7 = Anode 2 A2 | Select 4 3 3 4 8 = Diode Anode 1 D1 | Anode 5 5 9 = Diode Anode 2 D2 / Switch 1 1 [Not Side Contacts types!] Multiple section valves are catered for, with up to 2 Anodes & 2 separate Diode Anodes. Grids are normally paralleled up with other sections, & for Mixer valves you use A2 as G2/G3 etc. Insert valve in correct socket! Then power up, watching out for unusual signs of over bright heaters, no heaters, glowing anodes or screens. Switch off immediately & check settings & valve type. CATHODE INSULATION CINS test uses 3 changeovers to rewire much if the anode meter bridged test circuit to measure the leakage cathode to heater when 80V (105V!) AC is applied though the 50nF cap. (put Screen to 60V) [250kê is a GOOD insulation!] N.B. The test uses Anode to Cathode rectification to drive the meter so the valve must be warmed up, with the Anode circuit connected! HEATERS The heater transformer has an internal mains taping adjustment if needed. Valves can be tested after about 1 min warm up for indirectly heated types & a few seconds for directly heated ones. Over doing the heaters e.g. 7.5V on a 6V valve may well quicken the warm up time, but lower initial voltage is best at 1st for heaters. Never over run heaters above the normal cathode temperature (dull red) as this WILL vaporise a cathode coating & stop emission! For dual/tapped heaters types use parallel connection. As the whole valve warms up there may be differences (improvements) in measurements is the valve is soaked for 30 mins or so. BATTERY VALVES On the valve holder panel there is a heater 1/7 transformer to enable small directly heated valves to be lit at 1.4V when it is switched in & heater volts set to 10V, so never through this switch back to normal on 1.4V valves! DIODE CURRENT TEST This applies 14V via the 560ê & you measure the current on the 10mA scale with mA/V pot at to highest end. REC CURRENT TEST This applies 32V via a 91ê & you measure the current on the 100mA scale. e.g. mA/V pot set to 100. TRIODE/PENTODE GAIN TEST Select Anode & Screen voltages as needed (from AVO ref book!). Screen voltage must not be used without anode connected, as a Screen only current can damage some valves. Valve Gain "gm" is measure by Zeroing the meter with DC offset from the SET ZERO" control, then throwing the "mA/V" key. With the "SET mA/V" set to the "mA/V" the "gm" position, the "gm" can be directly read off the meter scale. The mA/V test switch applies either 1.2V or 1.1V AC to the G1 & the difference in anode current can be measured, or if the GM value is dialled into the SET mA/V pot, & Anode current bridge balanced SET ZERO, a GOOD/FAIR/BAD gain indication results. TEST PROBES The mains neon has 2 switched probe sockets (S), if plugged in these probes allow full mains voltage insulation testing on the leads for testing the unplugged valve. As there are 2 high value Rs on this circuit so it is quite safe really! SAFETY As there is no fuse in old appliances like this, I use a 1A mains plug fuse! See my Tech buls on "Valves (Tubes)" & "Old Valve Radios" Why don't U send an interesting bul? --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A43 (Linux/32) * Origin: HAMRADIO telnet slacko.kozow.com (21:5/101) .