Subj : Re: Unused Subs in World Cup finals matches To : rec.sport.soccer From : Laura Camacho Date : Mon Sep 27 2021 01:27 pm El lunes, 27 de septiembre de 2021 a las 13:12:32 UTC-6, Ll|-o escribi||: > Juan B escreveu: > > Hi team, > > > > I am unable to find the official list of substitutes for every single match > > at WC 1994 and WC 1998. > > > > Ricardo Rocha (Brasil) and Leonardo (Brasil) at WC 1994. Rocha played the > > first match since the beginning and got injured, unable to play for the > > rest of the tournament. According to many sources, he was key to win the > > tournament, a very helpful player out of the field and, despite he was not > > physically ready to play, he was in the bench at the WC final. > And I guess it was the same in the other matches too. Ricardo Rocha was one > of the leaders of the squad, captain at his club team and widely respected > and well-liked by his teammates. He was also important in keeping Romario > in check over the tournament too. > > Leonardo > > received the red card against USA in 1/8 finals + a 4 match-banned. > Indeed. I only realized he was on the bench in the final a few years later, > when watching again the shootout and the celebrations, as the players piled > up over Taffarel in the post-match pitch invasion. With hindsight, it was > probably obvious that he should be there, as he was going to pick up a medal > anyway. > > Both > > players were on the bench at the final BRA-ITA: > > https://juhatamminen.photoshelter.com/image/I0000yKSqHiSgd8k (Source: J. > > Tamminen). > I follow Juha Tamminen on Instagram. He's a very good football photographer. > > I see the following players on the bench (from left to right): > > Ronaldao, M|+ller, Zetti, Rai, Leonardo, Ronaldo, Jorginho, Gilmar, Viola, > > Paulo S|-rgio, Ricardo Rocha. > If you'll pardon a bit of nitpicking :-), switch around Paulo S|-rgio and M|+ller. > Paulo S|-rgio is seated between Ronald|uo and Zetti, M|+ller is the one standing > near Ricardo Rocha. > > 11 players on the field + 11 players physically > > allowed to be on the bench. Briefly, everyone was allowed to be on the bench > > with exceptions (for example, Vladoiu (RUM) or Effenberg (GER) were fired > > by the team in a certain moment of the WC). > > > > I created my own list for WC 1994, based on 2 sources, the Spanish newspapers: > > El Mundo Deportivo and Marca. The website https://millingsteins.com/ is a good > > help, indeed, but not few information is missing :/ > I'd like to compliment again all you people for the research that has gone into > this thread. This kind of information is rather difficult to find. I have tried > to contribute and researched some Brazilian newspapers and magazines, but failed > miserably (found information for a grand total of 0 matches), so again I take my > hat off to y'all. This thread should probably feature in the Best of RSS, if anyone > still updates that. > > I would like to share my research for WC 1994. For each match, I add the not > > available player + reason why. My criteria: a player is not available to play > > when is banned/suspended + not in the bench because of any disciplinary sanction. > > Leonardo can be physically on the bench at the WC final, but not eligible, so it > > is in the list of non-available players. > Makes sense. > > > -- > Ll|-o Team, Regarding the excellent source that Juan found for 1998, I was unable to view some players stats. These are the ones I could not find (with an X): -Chile X - Italia -Chile X - CAmeroon -Croatia X - Argentina -Spain X - Paraguay -Germany X - Iran X -Mexico X - Korea Where you able to view the stats? --- SBBSecho 3.06-Win32 * Origin: SportNet Gateway Site (24:150/2) .