===================================================== Ogre Battle 64 Starting Army Guide by Sukarikun v1.0 ===================================================== Table of Contents 1. Purpose 2. Possible Units 3. Math 4. Question-Answer Values 5. Combinations 6. Extra Value 7. Copyright ===================================================== 1. Purpose ===================================================== The purpose of this FAQ is short and sweet. I was playing Ogre Battle 64, and got annoyed that there are no good beginning-unit charts available. They're all slightly inaccurate in some manner. So I set out to get the correct chart. It was fairly simple. An hour's work to get the numbers, and afterwards a few more hours to write a few programs to do some analysis to determine what was possible within the confines of the game, mathematically. The meat of section 5 is the direct output of one of those programs. ===================================================== 2. Possible Units ===================================================== By the time you get into the first mission, you will have 6 units in your little army. You will have Magnus' unit (with 2 Amazons and 2 Fighters), Dio's unit (with some stuff I don't remember), and one of each of these, depending on your answers. +--------------------------------------------------+ | First Unit | +---------+--------------+-------------------------+ | Type | Leader | Other Members | +---------+--------------+------------+------------+ | Warrior | Knight | 2x Fighter | 2x Soldier | | Magic | Sorceress | 3x Fighter | 1x Soldier | | Healer | Cleric | 2x Amazon | 2x Soldier | | Trainer | Beast Tamer | 2x Fighter | 2x Soldier | +---------+--------------+------------+------------+ +--------------------------------------------------+ | Second Unit | +---------+--------------+------------+------------+ | Type | Leader | Other Members | +---------+--------------+------------+------------+ | Warrior | Archer | 1x Amazon | 3x Soldier | | Magic | Witch | 2x Amazon | 2x Soldier | | Healer | Fencer | 1x Fighter | 3x Soldier | | Trainer | Doll Master | 1x Amazon | 3x Soldier | +---------+--------------+------------+------------+ +--------------------------------------------------+ | Third Unit | +---------+--------------+------------+------------+ | Type | Leader | Other Members | +---------+--------------+------------+------------+ | Warrior | Berserker | 2x Soldier | | | Magic | Sorceress | 2x Soldier | | | Healer | Valkyrie | 2x Soldier | | | Trainer | Dragon Tamer | 2x Soldier | | +---------+--------------+------------+------------+ +--------------------------------------------------+ | Fourth Unit | +---------+--------------+------------+------------+ | Type | Leader | Other Members | +---------+--------------+------------+------------+ | Warrior | Phalanx | Golem | | | Magic | Wizard | Wyrm | | | Healer | Cleric | Griffon | | | Trainer | Beast Tamer | Hell Hound | | +---------+--------------+------------+------------+ ===================================================== 3. Math ===================================================== The math is fairly simple. For every answer, there is associated with it a value for each of the 4 starter-unit archetypes, namely, a Warrior value, a Magic value, a Healer value, and a Trainer value. The actual values are listed in the chart below. Once you have your six answers, sum them up. For example. +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ | Answer | Warrior | Magic | Healer | Trainer | +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ | Ardor | 12 | 16 | 4 | 8 | | Hope | 12 | 16 | 4 | 8 | | Valor | 12 | 8 | 0 | 16 | | Love | 0 | 16 | 8 | 4 | | Strife | 0 | 16 | 8 | 4 | | Change | 0 | 4 | 12 | 16 | +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ | Total | 36 | 76 | 36 | 56 | +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ Select your highest answer. That is your first unit. In this case, our first unit would be a Magic unit. Then subtract 32 from that answer, leaving us with a score of 44 for Magic. Our next highest value is Trainer, with 56. That is our second unit. Subtract 32 from it, leaving us with 24. So after 2 iterations, we have the following values as our totals: +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ | Total | 36 | 44 | 36 | 24 | +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ Our next highest value is Magic, yet again, so, our third unit is a Magic unit. Subtract 32 from that, leaving us with 12. Now, for the fourth unit, you'll notice the highest value is 36, but there are two of them. In the event of a tie, the winner is determined by going left-to-right on the chart, with the left-most type being the winner. Warror is further left than Healer, which makes our fourth unit a Warrior unit. Our initial army is as follows: CODE: [MTMW] +---------+--------------+-------------------------+ | Type | Leader | Other Members | +---------+--------------+------------+------------+ | Magic | Sorceress | 3x Fighter | 1x Soldier | | Trainer | Doll Master | 1x Amazon | 3x Soldier | | Magic | Sorceress | 2x Soldier | | | Warrior | Phalanx | Golem | | +---------+--------------+------------+------------+ ===================================================== 4. Question-Answer Values ===================================================== The chart below contains all the values I recorded directly out of the game's RAM. You'll notice that most other charts are almost completely accurate, but they're just slightly off from this one. This is the real deal. +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ | Answer | Warrior | Magic | Healer | Trainer | +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ | Ardor | 12 | 16 | 4 | 8 | | Passion | 16 | 0 | 8 | 12 | | Vigor | 0 | 4 | 12 | 16 | | Talent | 4 | 8 | 16 | 0 | | Belief | 16 | 4 | 16 | 4 | | Hatred | 4 | 16 | 4 | 16 | +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ | Hope | 12 | 16 | 4 | 8 | | Greed | 4 | 8 | 16 | 0 | | Order | 4 | 8 | 12 | 16 | | Silence | 16 | 0 | 8 | 12 | | Anarchy | 0 | 4 | 12 | 16 | | Control | 12 | 16 | 4 | 8 | +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ | Valor | 12 | 8 | 0 | 16 | | Purity | 0 | 16 | 8 | 4 | | Might | 16 | 12 | 4 | 0 | | Triumph | 8 | 4 | 16 | 12 | | Sacrifice | 8 | 4 | 16 | 12 | | Trust | 16 | 12 | 8 | 4 | +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ | Love | 0 | 16 | 8 | 4 | | Truth | 16 | 4 | 16 | 4 | | Freedom | 16 | 12 | 4 | 0 | | Embrace | 8 | 4 | 16 | 12 | | Lust | 4 | 16 | 4 | 16 | | Glory | 12 | 8 | 0 | 16 | +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ | Strife | 0 | 16 | 8 | 4 | | Serenity | 12 | 8 | 0 | 16 | | Wealth | 8 | 4 | 16 | 12 | | Reform | 12 | 16 | 4 | 8 | | Fertility | 16 | 12 | 4 | 0 | | Peace | 4 | 8 | 12 | 16 | +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ | Change | 0 | 4 | 12 | 16 | | Law | 16 | 12 | 8 | 4 | | Ideal | 16 | 0 | 8 | 12 | | Honor | 4 | 8 | 16 | 0 | | Rule | 12 | 16 | 4 | 8 | | Chaos | 8 | 4 | 16 | 12 | +-----------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ ===================================================== 5. Combinations ===================================================== To search for a particular combination here, choose a first, second, third, and fourth unit from above. Then, string the first letter of each type together and use your browser's search function to find it. For example, to get a group consisting of (in order) Healer, Healer, Magic, Trainer, you would search for "HHMT" without the quotes. Note, that even though there are 256 total possible combinations of the units, only 109 are possible in the game due to mathematical reasons. There are several impossible patterns given the determining algorithm. You can see XXYZ, but not XYYZ or XYZZ. Namely, you'll never see any that follow the pattern XYZY, but you will see XYXY. You'll never see XXXY, and by extension, XXXX. CODE: [HHMT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Talent | | Healer | Greed | | Magic | Triumph | | Trainer | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HHMW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Talent | | Healer | Greed | | Magic | Triumph | | Warrior | Truth | | | Strife | | | Honor | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HHTM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Healer | Greed | | Trainer | Triumph | | Magic | Embrace | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HHTW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Talent | | Healer | Greed | | Trainer | Triumph | | Warrior | Truth | | | Wealth | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HHWM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Healer | Greed | | Warrior | Triumph | | Magic | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HHWT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Healer | Greed | | Warrior | Triumph | | Trainer | Truth | | | Wealth | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HMHM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Magic | Greed | | Healer | Purity | | Magic | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HMHT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Talent | | Magic | Greed | | Healer | Triumph | | Trainer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HMHW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Magic | Greed | | Healer | Purity | | Warrior | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HMTH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Magic | Anarchy | | Trainer | Purity | | Healer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HMTW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Magic | Greed | | Trainer | Valor | | Warrior | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HMWH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Magic | Greed | | Warrior | Might | | Healer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HMWT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Magic | Silence | | Warrior | Might | | Trainer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HTHM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Vigor | | Trainer | Greed | | Healer | Triumph | | Magic | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HTHT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Passion | | Trainer | Order | | Healer | Triumph | | Trainer | Embrace | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HTHW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Trainer | Order | | Healer | Triumph | | Warrior | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HTMH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Passion | | Trainer | Order | | Magic | Triumph | | Healer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HTMW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Trainer | Silence | | Magic | Triumph | | Warrior | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HTWH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Passion | | Trainer | Greed | | Warrior | Triumph | | Healer | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HTWM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Passion | | Trainer | Silence | | Warrior | Triumph | | Magic | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HWHM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Talent | | Warrior | Greed | | Healer | Might | | Magic | Truth | | | Wealth | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HWHT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Warrior | Greed | | Healer | Trust | | Trainer | Truth | | | Wealth | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HWHW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Warrior | Greed | | Healer | Triumph | | Warrior | Truth | | | Wealth | | | Law | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HWMH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Warrior | Greed | | Magic | Might | | Healer | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HWMT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Warrior | Greed | | Magic | Valor | | Trainer | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HWTH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Belief | | Warrior | Silence | | Trainer | Triumph | | Healer | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [HWTM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Healer | Passion | | Warrior | Order | | Trainer | Might | | Magic | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MHMH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Talent | | Healer | Greed | | Magic | Purity | | Healer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MHMT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Talent | | Healer | Hope | | Magic | Purity | | Trainer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MHMW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Talent | | Healer | Hope | | Magic | Might | | Warrior | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MHTM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Talent | | Healer | Hope | | Trainer | Valor | | Magic | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MHTW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Passion | | Healer | Greed | | Trainer | Valor | | Warrior | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MHWM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Belief | | Healer | Hope | | Warrior | Might | | Magic | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MHWT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Passion | | Healer | Greed | | Warrior | Might | | Trainer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MMHT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Ardor | | Magic | Hope | | Healer | Purity | | Trainer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MMHW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Talent | | Magic | Hope | | Healer | Purity | | Warrior | Love | | | Strife | | | Law | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MMTH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Hatred | | Magic | Hope | | Trainer | Purity | | Healer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MMTW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Hatred | | Magic | Hope | | Trainer | Valor | | Warrior | Love | | | Strife | | | Law | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MMWH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Ardor | | Magic | Hope | | Warrior | Might | | Healer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MMWT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Ardor | | Magic | Hope | | Warrior | Purity | | Trainer | Lust | | | Strife | | | Law | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MTHM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Vigor | | Trainer | Hope | | Healer | Valor | | Magic | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MTHW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Belief | | Trainer | Hope | | Healer | Valor | | Warrior | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MTMH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Hatred | | Trainer | Hope | | Magic | Valor | | Healer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MTMT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Hatred | | Trainer | Hope | | Magic | Valor | | Trainer | Lust | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MTMW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Ardor | | Trainer | Hope | | Magic | Valor | | Warrior | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MTWH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Passion | | Trainer | Hope | | Warrior | Valor | | Healer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MTWM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Hatred | | Trainer | Hope | | Warrior | Valor | | Magic | Freedom | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MWHM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Talent | | Warrior | Hope | | Healer | Might | | Magic | Freedom | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MWHT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Passion | | Warrior | Hope | | Healer | Might | | Trainer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MWMH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Ardor | | Warrior | Hope | | Magic | Might | | Healer | Freedom | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MWMT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Hatred | | Warrior | Hope | | Magic | Might | | Trainer | Freedom | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MWMW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Ardor | | Warrior | Hope | | Magic | Might | | Warrior | Freedom | | | Strife | | | Law | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MWTH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Belief | | Warrior | Hope | | Trainer | Valor | | Healer | Freedom | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [MWTM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Magic | Ardor | | Warrior | Hope | | Trainer | Valor | | Magic | Freedom | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [THMT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Vigor | | Healer | Order | | Magic | Valor | | Trainer | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [THMW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Belief | | Healer | Silence | | Magic | Valor | | Warrior | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [THTH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Vigor | | Healer | Order | | Trainer | Triumph | | Healer | Embrace | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [THTM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Vigor | | Healer | Order | | Trainer | Valor | | Magic | Embrace | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [THTW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Healer | Order | | Trainer | Valor | | Warrior | Embrace | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [THWM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Healer | Order | | Warrior | Valor | | Magic | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [THWT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Healer | Order | | Warrior | Triumph | | Trainer | Truth | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TMHT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Magic | Order | | Healer | Valor | | Trainer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TMHW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Belief | | Magic | Order | | Healer | Valor | | Warrior | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TMTH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Vigor | | Magic | Hope | | Trainer | Valor | | Healer | Lust | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TMTM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Hatred | | Magic | Order | | Trainer | Valor | | Magic | Love | | | Peace | | | Rule | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TMTW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Hatred | | Magic | Silence | | Trainer | Valor | | Warrior | Lust | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TMWH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Hatred | | Magic | Silence | | Warrior | Valor | | Healer | Freedom | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TMWT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Magic | Hope | | Warrior | Valor | | Trainer | Lust | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TTHM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Vigor | | Trainer | Order | | Healer | Triumph | | Magic | Lust | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TTHW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Vigor | | Trainer | Order | | Healer | Valor | | Warrior | Embrace | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TTMH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Vigor | | Trainer | Order | | Magic | Valor | | Healer | Glory | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TTMW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Hatred | | Trainer | Order | | Magic | Valor | | Warrior | Lust | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TTWH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Trainer | Order | | Warrior | Valor | | Healer | Embrace | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TTWM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Trainer | Order | | Warrior | Valor | | Magic | Glory | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TWHM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Warrior | Silence | | Healer | Valor | | Magic | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TWHT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Warrior | Silence | | Healer | Valor | | Trainer | Embrace | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TWMH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Warrior | Silence | | Magic | Valor | | Healer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TWMT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Warrior | Silence | | Magic | Valor | | Trainer | Lust | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TWTH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Warrior | Silence | | Trainer | Valor | | Healer | Embrace | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TWTM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Warrior | Silence | | Trainer | Valor | | Magic | Glory | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [TWTW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Trainer | Passion | | Warrior | Silence | | Trainer | Valor | | Warrior | Glory | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WHMT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Healer | Hope | | Magic | Valor | | Trainer | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WHMW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Healer | Greed | | Magic | Trust | | Warrior | Freedom | | | Reform | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WHTM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Healer | Silence | | Trainer | Valor | | Magic | Truth | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WHTW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Healer | Silence | | Trainer | Might | | Warrior | Truth | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WHWH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Healer | Silence | | Warrior | Triumph | | Healer | Truth | | | Wealth | | | Law | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WHWM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Healer | Silence | | Warrior | Might | | Magic | Truth | | | Fertility | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WHWT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Healer | Silence | | Warrior | Might | | Trainer | Truth | | | Reform | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WMHT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Passion | | Magic | Silence | | Healer | Might | | Trainer | Love | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WMHW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Magic | Hope | | Healer | Might | | Warrior | Truth | | | Reform | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WMTH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Passion | | Magic | Hope | | Trainer | Valor | | Healer | Freedom | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WMTW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Ardor | | Magic | Hope | | Trainer | Valor | | Warrior | Freedom | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WMWH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Passion | | Magic | Hope | | Warrior | Might | | Healer | Freedom | | | Fertility | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WMWM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Ardor | | Magic | Hope | | Warrior | Might | | Magic | Freedom | | | Fertility | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WMWT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Ardor | | Magic | Hope | | Warrior | Might | | Trainer | Truth | | | Serenity | | | Law | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WTHM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Trainer | Silence | | Healer | Valor | | Magic | Freedom | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WTHW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Trainer | Silence | | Healer | Valor | | Warrior | Truth | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WTMH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Passion | | Trainer | Silence | | Magic | Valor | | Healer | Freedom | | | Strife | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WTMW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Passion | | Trainer | Hope | | Magic | Valor | | Warrior | Freedom | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WTWH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Trainer | Silence | | Warrior | Valor | | Healer | Freedom | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WTWM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Passion | | Trainer | Silence | | Warrior | Might | | Magic | Freedom | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WTWT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Passion | | Trainer | Silence | | Warrior | Valor | | Trainer | Freedom | | | Serenity | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WWHM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Warrior | Silence | | Healer | Might | | Magic | Freedom | | | Fertility | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WWHT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Passion | | Warrior | Silence | | Healer | Trust | | Trainer | Freedom | | | Fertility | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WWHW] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Warrior | Silence | | Healer | Might | | Warrior | Truth | | | Fertility | | | Ideal | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WWMH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Passion | | Warrior | Silence | | Magic | Might | | Healer | Freedom | | | Fertility | | | Change | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WWMT] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Warrior | Hope | | Magic | Valor | | Trainer | Truth | | | Serenity | | | Law | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WWTH] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Warrior | Silence | | Trainer | Valor | | Healer | Truth | | | Serenity | | | Law | +-----------+-----------+ CODE: [WWTM] +-----------+-----------+ | Units | Answers | +-----------+-----------+ | Warrior | Belief | | Warrior | Silence | | Trainer | Valor | | Magic | Freedom | | | Serenity | | | Law | +-----------+-----------+ ===================================================== 6. Extra Value ===================================================== In addition to the above 4 values, the game keeps track of a fifth value, whose purpose is completely unknown to me. However, the fifth value does conform to some patterns, which lead me to believe that it does serve a purpose. The charts below map it out. Forgive the lack of pretty charts for this section. Question 1 --------------------------- W M H T ? Sum A1 12 16 4 8 0 | 40 A2 16 0 8 12 4 | 40 A3 0 4 12 16 8 | 40 A4 4 8 16 0 12 | 40 A5 16 4 16 4 4 | 44 A6 4 16 4 16 4 | 44 -----------------------+--- Sum 52 48 60 56 32 |248 -----------------------+--- Question 2 --------------------------- W M H T ? Sum A1 12 16 4 8 4 | 44 A2 4 8 16 0 12 | 40 A3 4 8 12 16 4 | 44 A4 16 0 8 12 4 | 40 A5 0 4 12 16 8 | 40 A6 12 16 4 8 0 | 40 -----------------------+--- Sum 48 52 56 60 32 |248 -----------------------+--- Question 3 --------------------------- W M H T ? Sum A1 12 8 0 16 4 | 40 A2 0 16 8 4 12 | 40 A3 16 12 4 0 8 | 40 A4 8 4 16 12 0 | 40 A5 8 4 16 12 4 | 44 A6 16 12 8 4 4 | 44 -----------------------+--- Sum 60 56 52 48 32 |248 -----------------------+--- Question 4 --------------------------- W M H T ? Sum A1 0 16 8 4 12 | 40 A2 16 4 16 4 4 | 44 A3 16 12 4 0 8 | 40 A4 8 4 16 12 0 | 40 A5 4 16 4 16 4 | 44 A6 12 8 0 16 4 | 40 -----------------------+--- Sum 56 60 48 52 32 |248 -----------------------+--- Question 5 --------------------------- W M H T ? Sum A1 0 16 8 4 12 | 40 A2 12 8 0 16 4 | 40 A3 8 4 16 12 0 | 40 A4 12 16 4 8 4 | 44 A5 16 12 4 0 8 | 40 A6 4 8 12 16 4 | 44 -----------------------+--- Sum 52 64 44 56 32 |248 -----------------------+--- Question 6 --------------------------- W M H T ? Sum A1 0 4 12 16 8 | 40 A2 16 12 8 4 4 | 44 A3 16 0 8 12 4 | 40 A4 4 8 16 0 12 | 40 A5 12 16 4 8 0 | 40 A6 8 4 16 12 4 | 44 -----------------------+--- Sum 56 44 64 52 32 |248 -----------------------+--- A few things to note. These values were pulled from a particular set of memory addresses. The first four values were pulled from 3B16FFF0, 3B16FFF1, 3B16FFF2, 3B16FFF3. The fifth value was pulled from 3B16FFF7, with 3B16FFF4, 3B16FFF5, and 3B16FFF6 remaining at 0 throughout the whole process. The total sum of each archetype is 324, meaning that they all have the exact same average score. The sum of the mystery column is also perpetually 32, which I find to be rather curious. I've explored several possibilities, including that the amount subtracted each iteration is this mysterious fifth number (it wasn'), that the Chaos Frame is somehow affected by it (haven't found the correct memory address yet), and that initial elements and stats are affected by it (inconclusive). It does not seem to affect army composition in any way. ===================================================== 7. Copyright ===================================================== This document is copyright sukarikun. 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