------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dynasty Warriors 4 - Character Edit Weapon Info Copyright 2003 Jason "AllPainful" Coleman This guide made specifically for GameFAQs.com and may be not be reproduced under any circumstances except for personal, private use. It may not be placed on any web site or otherwise distributed publicly without advance written permission. Use of this guide on any other web site or as a part of any public display is strictly prohibited, and a violation of copyright. All trademarks and copyrights contained in this document are owned by their respective trademark and copyright holders. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Table of Contents: 1. Notes 2. Version History 3. The Weapons a. Sword 1 b. Sword 2 c. Sword 3 d. Sword 4 e. Sword 5 f. Sword 6 g. Sword 7 h. Sword 8 i. Sword 9 j. Sword 10 k. Spear 1 l. Spear 2 m. Spear 3 n. Pike 1 o. Pike 2 p. Rapier q. Great sword 4. Weapon Level Info 5. Leveling weapons 6. Credits 7. About me 8. Contact Info ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. Notes: This guide is based on the US version of the game. I did not list the different "Costumes" avaliable due to the fact that they are clearly visible on the screen while you are choosing them, where as the weapons attacks are not all visible. If you create a character, level that characters weapon up, and then make another character with the same weapon, it keeps its level. (Like if you make a Sword 8 character, and then level up the sword, then make a Sword 5 character your sword 5 character would start with an already leveled up sword.) Something I've notice. The bodyguards "Stay Put" command (the hand) is not a "stay where you are" command. Its a "Come to where I am standing right now and stay here" command. Something I found out by accident. I was playing on Yellow Turban Rebellion on the Yellow turban's side with a low level character, I worked hard to beat all the generals and only 2 were left, Lu Bu and Sun Jian, so I went after Lu Bu and was about to lose because he had me in the juggle combo, I wasn't sure if it was going to be enough to kill me, so I pressed start and quit/save then reloaded my game to let Lu Bu finish his combo. To my surprise the level started and Lu Bu was back on his horse standing in front of me, so I ran and got health and came back and killed him. Moral: If you are caught in a juggle combo, save & quit and then reload to get out of said combo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2. Version History: Version 0.1 May 31, 2003 - First version of the guide, haven't verified all The Attacks yet. Also plan on listing all the charge attacks, not just the stationary ones. Will list the level 1-9 weapon strengths as well. Already had Fu Xi's sword, so unless someone wants to give me its info it will be a while before the details about level 1-9 stats on it. Version 0.2 June 1, 2003 - Corrected date of first version (it had the month, then the number of the month instead of the day). Added my fast Weapon level up to the "NOTES" section. Reformatted the weapons section dividing the weapons into their own sub section. Added a table of contents. Version 0.3 June 1, 2003 - Corrected some spelling mistakes. Changed "Level 10 weapons" to "Weapon Level Info" and add an experience, power, number of attacks and Name for each level of each weapon. Added the number of item slots to the "The Weapons" section. Added some extra info to the fast weapon level up. June 2, 2003 - Added the info for more weapons. Added horse attacks to the individual weapon attack info. Added even more to the fast weapon level up, its large enough now that I might make it its own section. Verified Nu Wa's Sword obtainability and added comments on it. Version 0.4 June 2, 2003 - Corrected more spelling mistakes. leveled up my pike. Listed all the attacks for the pike 1. Moved the weapon leveling advise out of the "NOTES" section and gave it it's own section. Add what (Is in my opinion) the best way to go through Battle of Jian Ye to the leveling advise. Verified Eclipse (Pike 10th) obtainability. deleted my Pike 1 character to make a Pike 2 character to get the moves. all pike info filled in. Leveling up spear now. Version 0.5 June 3, 2003 - Added some info gained from E-mails I recieved, added the people to the "Credits" section. I unlocked and beat Yellow turban musou mode. And have verified that it is probably the best level to level up weapons. I will figure the exact weapon experience gained and list it in the weapon leveling section. Started gathering the info about the generals on said stage. June 4, 2003 - Completed the info about Yellow Turban Rebellion for leveling up. Added more spear info. Added 2 more things to my "NOTES" section. Verified Typhoon (Spear 10th) obtainability. Deleted my Spear 1 character and made a character of both Spear 1 and Spear 3 to get thier moves. Version 0.6 June 4, 2003 - Starting to level up sword. Only took about an hour to level it up (Its a little slow to start when you create a new character and then go and immediatly play on a level with a 6 difficulty rating.) I corrected Liu Bei's trigger on the yellow turban menace, I noticed that going near the center was not the real trigger, Zhu Jun was. Verified Phoenix Tail (Sword 10th) obtainability. Relized I forgot something and added Counter to the moves list. Might be a while before I get everyones counter though. Version 0.9 June 5, 2003 - The jump in version number is due to the fact that I filled in almost ALL the info. Still don't have Great Swords level info, and some of the Counter moves. Corrected some spelling mistakes. Version 1.0 June 7, 2003 - Added some info the "The Weapons" section. Finished filling out the counters for the different characters. Version 1.1 June 9, 2003 - Corrected some grammatical and spelling errors Version 1.2 June 10, 2003- Added Weapon names for great sword levels. Version 1.3 June 13, 2003- Added more detail to the steps to getting the Typhoon (Spear 10th). Added note that 10th level weapons can only be obtained on hard mode. Version 1.4 June 14, 2003- Added more 10th advise regarding bodyguards and orbs. Version 1.5 June 22, 2003- Added some more contributed info to the FAQ. Next update should have the strenth of the Great Sword levels. Version 1.6 June 23, 2003- Added the Great Sword strength info. Guide will be complete when I get the Rapier and Sword level 1 strengths. Which should be soon. Version 1.7 June 28, 2003- Added the "Must have 9th weapon already" to the info about getting the level 10 weapons due to e-mails from people having difficulty getting the weapons because they didn't have the level 9. Also added some info to the "Notes" section. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3. The Weapons: There are MANY Different weapons to choose from. These are all the ones that I have unlocked so far (Though I am unsure WHAT unlocks them, I BELIEVE that unlocking certain characters unlocks that characters "Charge" for use in player edit. Rapier and Great Sword require no unlocking.), also note that weapon choise effects the number of items you can equip (this number excludes orbs and harnesses of which you can always equip 1 of each): Starting Item Slots Max Rank Item Slots Rapier (FEMALE ONLY) 3 6 Sword 1-5, 7-10 2 5 Sword 6 (MALE ONLY) 2 5 Spear 1-3 2 5 Pike 1-2 1 4 Great Sword (MALE ONLY) 1 4 Spear 1 and Spear 2 though both are the same spear, both have DIFFERENT charge attacks. (Triangle while standing still). I found this out by Making 2 characters with spears, one had Spear 1 and another had Spear 2, they had different charge attack, then I noticed the animation on the "Edit" MATCHED the charge attack. Since someone asked I figured I would mention that the Rapier and the Great Sword fighting styles are not based on anyone in DW4, they are based on 2 DW3 characters. The Rapier is based on Nu Wa (notice the 10th level rapier is named Nu Wa's Rapier) and the Great Sword, you guessed it, Fu Xi (again, the 10th level weapon is named Fu Xi's Sword). Number of swings in horse attacks depends on the weapon, if you weapon has 4 attacks you can swing up to for times. Here is a list of the attacks: *** to the right means I actually made a character a VERIFIED it ??? Means I don't have that one unlocked Extended means the musou makes the weapon longer. If I say "Alternating" but I only list 1 type of slash (Example: Alternating horizonals slash) that normally means the slash goes one way, and then goes backwards along the same path, so if the example started left to right, the next would be right to left (Note: That is not always the case, alternating angle slashes generally means like slash from low left to upper right followed by slash from lower right to upper left). And if you see H it means Horizontal, because I had to remove the word to make it fit on the line. **************** 3.a. Sword 1 S - Slash upper left to lower right T - Spins around and shoots "Light Arrow" from hand S - Slash lower right to upper left T - Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Horizontal slash from left to right T - Slash followed by 3 alternating spin slashes, T again adds 4 spin S - Slash from lower right to upper left T - Hopping spin slash S - Spining horizontal slash from right to left T - Upward popup slash, T again to jump and 3 alternating spin slashes S - Horizontal slash from left to right T - Throws WIDE horizontal beam forward that can go through enemies Musou - Alternating upward slashes followed by a spinning upward slash True - Adds 3 alternating sideways spin slashes before last upward slash Horse - Swings sword alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - 360 verticle slash starting in upper right Jump T - Flips and stabs sword into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - 2 Horizontal slashes then a spin slash Horse S - Swings sword alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings 2 times, once on right then once on left Counter - Upward slash **************** 3.b. Sword 2 S - Horizontal slash from right to left T - Shoots "Light Arrow" from sword S - Horizontal slash from left to right T - Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Slash from lower right to upper left T - 2 moving horizontals then overhead, T again adds 4 to the horizontal S - Slash from upper left to mid right T - Horizontal slash from left to right S - Slash from mid right to lower left T - Upward popup slash, T again jumps and does 2 low horizontal slashes S - Horizontal slash from left to right T - Slash from lower left to upper right, T again adds 4 alternating Musou - Alternating n slash behind, veritcle slash to left, ends extended H True - Adds 3 extended slashes after last horizontal Horse - Swings sword alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - Low horizontal slash from left to right Jump T - Flips and stabs sword into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Running elbow Horse S - Swings sword alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings 2 times, once on right then once on left Counter - Horizontal slash from left to right **************** 3.c. Sword 3 S - Slash from lower left to upper right T - Slides away and then turns, slides back with a low horizontal slash S - Slash from upper right to lower left T - Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Horizontal slash from left to right T - 2 alternating angel slashes then horizontal, T adds 4 angles slashes S - Jab T - Overhead slash S - Horizontal slash from left to right T - Upward popup slash, T again jumps and does an overhead slash S - Overhead slash T - Spinning SHOCKWAVE slash Musou - Alternating horizontal till gauge out, 2 extended H then 1 overhead True - Doubles the ending, adds 2 extended H and then 1 extended overhead Horse - Swings sword alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - Overhead slash Jump T - Flips and stabs sword into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Horizontal slash right to left Horse S - Swings sword alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings 2 times, once on right then once on left Counter - Horizontal slash **************** 3.d. Sword 4 S - Slash from lower left to upper right T - Spinning forward moving horizontal slash S - Slash from uppre right to mid left T - Hopping upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Horizontal slash from left to right T - 2 alternating angel slashes then horizontal, T adds 4 angles slashes S - Low horizontal slash from right to left T - 180 degree turn reverse jab S - Overhead slash T - Upward popup slash, T again to jump and slash up left to low right S - Upward slash T - Throws a verticle beam that can go through enemies to hit many Musou - Alternating angle slashes till out, then charging side slash True - Adds 2 extended angle slashes before charging slash Horse - Swings sword alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - Slash from upper right to lower left Jump T - Flips and stabs sword into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Horizontal slash Horse S - Swings sword alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings 2 times, once on right then once on left Counter - 180 degree spin reverse jab **************** 3.e. Sword 5 S - Slash lower left to upper right T - Grabs, lifts, headbutt and then 2 horizontal slashes S - Slash upper right to lower left T - Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Horizontal slash left to right T - 2 alternating angled, horizontal then overhead. T again add 4 angled S - Slash lower right to upper left T - Strong overhead slash S - Horizontal slash left to right T - Upward popup slash, T again to jump and low horizontal slash S - Overhead slash T - Throws WIDE horizontal beam forward that can go through enemies Musou - Makes alternating horizontal slashes till gauge out, then another True - Adds 4 different blade extended slashes before the last horizontal Horse - Swings sword alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - Downward slash from upper left to lower right Jump T - Flips and stabs sword into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Horizontal slash from right to left Horse S - Swings sword alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings 2 times, once on right then once on left Counter - Slashes upper left to lower right then reverse **************** 3.f. Sword 6 S - Slash lower left to upper right T - Grab, lift and strong slash to send flying S - Horizontal slash right to left T - Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Horizontal slast left to right T - 2 angled slashes then 2 strong ones, T again adds 4 before strong S - Slash lower right to upper left T - 180 degree spin and reverse jab S - Slash lower left to upper right T - Upward popup slash, T again to jump and low horizontal slash S - jab T - Throws a verticle beam that can go through enemies to hit many Musou - Horizontal slashes till gauge out, then backflop with explosion True - adds to extended blade horizontal slashes before backflop Horse - Swings sword alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - Slash upper right to lower left Jump T - Flips and stabs sword into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Horizontal slash right to left Horse S - Swings sword alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings 2 times, once on right then once on left Counter - 180 degree spin and reverse jab **************** 3.g. Sword 7 S - Slash from lower left to upper right T - Crouching charge forward ending in a roll S - Horizontal slash from right to left T - Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Horizontal slash from left to right T - 2 angled slashes followed by 2 spinning, T again adds 4 angled S - Slash from lower right to upper left T - Overhead slash S - Horizontal slash from left to right T - Upward popup slash, T again jumps and slashes in a U S - Horizontal slash from right to left T - 360 degree slash (no spin) with a shockwave Musou - Horizontal slashes till guage out, then overhead slash True - Adds to SHOCKWAVE spin slashes before the overhead slash Horse - Swings sword alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - Slash from upper right to lower left Jump T - Flips and stabs sword into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Horizontal slash right to left Horse S - Swings sword alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings 2 times, once on right then once on left Counter - Step forward and horizontal slash **************** 3.h. Sword 8 S - Slash upper right to lower left T - Pulls out bow and shoots 5 arrows straight, does not deplete arrows S - Horizontal slash left to right T - Spinning popup slash, T again does NOT jump in the air S - Jab T - Shoots 2 arrows, does not deplete arrows, T again shoots 2 more S - Slash upper left to lower right T - Spining slash from upper left to lower right S - Low horizontal slash from right to left T - Upward popup slash, T again jumps and slashes up right to low left S - Horizontal slash from left to right T - Throws WIDE horizontal beam forward, T again for another Musou - Spining slashes till guage out, then 1 more and a stumble True - adds 3 nonspinning slashes before last one Horse - Swings sword alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - U shaped slash starting in upper right Jump T - Flips and stabs sword into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Charging jab Horse S - Swings sword alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings 2 times, once on right then once on left Counter - Spinning horizontal forward slash **************** 3.i. Sword 9 S - Slash upper right to lower left T - Stab, lift kick, T again to kick again S - Horizontal slash left to right T - Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Jab T - 2 sets of up&down slashes, then horizontal, T again adds another set S - Spin kick T - Spinning horizontal slash S - Horizontal slash left to right T - Upward slash, popup slash T again jumps and overhead slashes S - Low horizontal slash right to left T - Spins and water comes up in a fountain Musou - Charges forward holding blade out the the left, ends with a spin True - Adds 3 spins to the end for a total of 4 Horse - Swings sword alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - Slash from upper right to lower left Jump T - Flips and stabs sword into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Running knee Horse S - Swings sword alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings 2 times, once on right then once on left Counter - Spinning wide horizontal slash **************** 3.j. Sword 10 S - Slash upper right to lower left T - Pulls out bow and shoots 5 "Homing" arrows, does not deplete arrows S - Horizontal slash left to right T - Spinning popup slash, T again does NOT jump in the air S - Jab T - 2 alternating angled slashes then horizontal, T again adds 4 angled S - Slash upper right to lower left T - Spinning angled slash from upper left to lower right S - Slash upper left to lower right T - Upward slash, popup, T again jumps and slashes up right to low left S - Overhead slash T - 2 horizontal slashes, T again adds 3 more horizontal slashes Musou - Spin slashes till gauge out, 3 horizontal followed by another spin True - Last spin slash is gone, instead has a jumping low horizontal Horse - Swings sword alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - Swings sword 360 degrees verticle starting upper right going down Jump T - Flips and stabs sword into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Running knee Horse S - Swings sword alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings 2 times, once on right then once on left Counter - Spin slash **************** 3.k. Spear 1 S - Horizontal slash from left to right T - Charging jab with lifting slash at end S - forward jab T - Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Horizontal slash form left to right T - Downward slash & jab, horizontal slash, T again adds 2 slash & jabs S - Overhead slash T - Strong wide horizontal slash S - Slash from lower right to upper left T - Upward jab, popup, T again jumps and slashes up left to low right S - Horizontal slash from right to left T - 2 jabs then horizontal spin slash, T again adds 3 jabs before spin Musou - Slash, spins low right to up left till gauge out, then a horizontal True - Adds 3 hits after horizontal, Spin then Overhead then horizontal Horse - Swings spear alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - Swings spear 360 degrees verticle starting upper left going down Jump T - Flips and stabs spear into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Wide horizontal swing left to right Horse S - Swings spear alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings 2 times, once on right then once on left Counter - 360 Degree spinning WIDE horizontal slash **************** 3.l. Spear 2 *** S - Slash from lower right to upper left T - Plants spear and then does a 360 spin kick around it S - Jab with butt end of the spear T - Spinning Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Slash from lower right to upper left T - 2 jabs then a horizontal slash from left to right S - Slash from lower right to upper left with butt end of spear T - Spin then jab S - Overhead downward slash T - Upward popup slash, T again to jump and low horizontal slash S - Slash from lower right to upper left T - 360 degree spin with a shockwave Musou - Spins spear till guage runs out, spear plant kick, shockwave slash True - Adds 2 horizontal NON-shockwave slashes before the spear plant kick Horse - Swings spear on right till musou out, then does the shockwave Jump S - Verticle spin slash Jump T - Flips and stabs spear into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Spins spear in front Horse S - Swings back to front then front to back alternating on the right Horse T - Spins spear about head and causes a shockwave (like elephant stomp) Counter - Spins then forward jab **************** 3.m. Spear 3 *** S - Slash from lower right to upper left T - Throws fireball from hand S - Jab with but of spear T - Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Slash from lower right to upper left T - 2 slashes then spin attack, T again adds 4 slashes before spin S - Slash from upper left to lower right T - Spin slash S - Slash from lower right to upper left T - Upward popup slash, T again to jump and slash UpLeft to LowRight S - Slash from upper left to lower right T - Throws a verticle beam that can go through enemies to hit many Musou - Spins slashes till gauge out, then wide horizontal spin True - adds 3 wide horizontal spins, then pauses before the last one Horse - Swings spear alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - Downward jab Jump T - Flips and stabs spear into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Wide horizontal swing right to left Horse S - Swings spear alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings 2 times, once on right then once on left Counter - Spins then forward jab **************** 3.n. Pike 1 *** S - Slash from lower left to mid right T - Triple spins pike around infront while charging forward S - Slash from upper right to mid left T - Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Jab with butt end of the pike T - 3 hit combo, L to R slash, R to L slash, L to R slash S - Horizontal slash from left to right T - Strong horizontal slash from lower right to upper left S - Slash from upper right to lower left T - Upward popup slash, T again to jump and downward slash S - Slash from upper left to lower right T - Horizontal swing with water fountain (like the rapier's jump and T) Musou - Multiple slashes until guage runs out, then horizontal slash True - Adds 2 horizontal NON-shockwave slashes to the end Horse - Swings pike alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - Slash from upper right to lower left Jump T - Flips and stabs pike into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Horizontal slash from left to right Horse S - Swings pike alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings first on right, then on left Counter - 360 Degree spinning WIDE horizontal slash **************** 3.o. Pike 2 S - Horizontal Swing left to right T - Throws fireball from hand S - Slash from upper right to mid left T - Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Jab with butt end of the pike T - 3 hit combo, 2 overhead, 1 horizontal, T before last adds 2 overhead S - Horizontal slash from right to left T - 360 spin with Pike partially extended S - Horizontal LOW slash left to right T - Upward popup slash, T again to jump slash upper right to low left S - Horizontal slash from right to left T - Ground stab cuasing explosion Musou - Alternating horizontal slash till guage is out, then stab & slash True - adds an extra stab and slash at the end Horse - Swings pike alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - 360 degree slash high in back, low in front Jump T - Flips and stabs pike into the ground cuasing an explosion Run S - Holds pike sideways and pushes Horse S - Swings pike alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings first on right, then on left Counter - Short reach 360 Degree spinning horizontal slash **************** 3.p. Rapier *** S - Horizontal slash right to left T - Triple attack S - Forward jab T - Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - 180 turn and backward jab T - 3 hit combo, R to L slash, L to R slash, Spinning slash S - 180 turn and backward jab T - Strong horizontal slash from left to right S - Forward Jab T - Stab, upwards throw, T again jumps and adds 2 more hits S - Slash from lower left to upper right T - 2 forward jabs, charging jab, T again before last jab adds 2 jabs Musou - Multiple jabs till guage runs out, then a 360 degree spin attack True - Adds 2 SHOCKWAVE spins before the final 360 degree spin Horse - Swings sword alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - Downward jab Jump T - Flips, Lands on feet, spins and water comes up in a fountain Run S - Forward jab Horse S - Swings sword alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings sword 3 times on the right Counter - Brings sword up to left, makes a wide horizontal slash left to right **************** 3.q. Great Sword *** S - Slash from lower right to upper left T - Grab attack, 2 hits with sword after grab S - Slash from upper left to lower right T - Upward slash, popup slash T again does NOT jump in the air S - Slash from lower right to upper left T - Jab then 360 degree spin, T 2 more times before spin adds 2 jabs S - Slash from upper left to lower right T - 360 degree horizontal slash S - Slash from lower right to upper left T - Upward popup slash, T again to jump and downward slash S - Overhead downward slash T - Stab then reverse throw, T 2 more time before throw adds 2 stabs Musou - Spins in cirles till guage runs out, then final spin hits harder True - Adds 3 SHOCKWAVE spins to the end of the regular musou Horse - Swings sword alternating sides till gauge runs out Jump S - Flip and brings sword down on the ground causing an explosion Jump T - Overhead downward slash Run S - 360 degree spin attack Horse S - Swings sword alternating sides for each S pressed, starts on right Horse T - Swings sword 2 times on the right Counter - 360 degree wide horizontal slash ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4. Weapon Level Info (Level 10 weapons Per Muni Shinobu's GREAT guide!): NOTE: The game must be on HARD mode to get 10th level weapons. also do not use an elemental orb that does damage (Fire, Blast, lightning or Vorpal cause damage. Ice and Poison do not.) If you do use an orb that does damage, and the element kills the general it may not count as you killing the general. Same goes for bodyguards don't use them because if they get the kill it does not count. So if you do take bodyguards into the level, leave them with your commander. Also before attempting the get the level 10 you MUST have the level 9 weapon already. *** 10th level weapon verified personally Sword Level Experience Power Attacks Name 1 0 4 Sword 2 1000 17 4 " 3 3000 20 4 " 4 6000 24 5 High Sword 5 10000 27 5 " 6 15000 30 5 " 7 21000 39 6 Phoenix Sword 8 28000 42 6 " 9 35000 45 6 " 10 N/A 54 6 Phoenix Tail Stage = Yellow Turban Fortress Side = Allied Troop Scenario Method = In under 6:00 into the stage, defeat in order Po Cai, Zhou Cang, Chen Yuan Zhi, or defeat in order He Yi, Pei Yuan Shao, Chen Yuan Zhi -> Lv10 weapon earned message. AllPainful Comment = Another easy one. It sounds difficult, but here is another way of saying the above. There are 2 paths to the main castle at the bottom. Each has 2 generals guarding it. Pick a path and kill both generals and the general guarding the main gate of the castle in under six minutes. It took me 2 minutes and 15 seconds into the level to get the message that I had earned the weapon. Took a total of 3 minutes and 7 seconds to beat the level. Also note, when I played it I didn't have Po Cai, it was Bo Zhang, so I killed Bo Zhang then Zhou Cang then Cheng Yuan Zhi then waited for the message to say I got it, then I went after Zhang Bao and finished the level. Spear Level Experience Power Attacks Name *** 1 0 15 4 Spear 2 1000 18 4 " 3 3000 21 4 " 4 6000 25 5 Force Spear 5 10000 28 5 " 6 15000 31 5 " 7 21000 40 6 Sonic Spear 8 28000 43 6 " 9 35000 46 6 " 10 N/A 55 6 Typhoon Stage = Battle of Si Shui Gate Side = Allied Troops Scenario Method = Defeat Fan Chou and take over the enemy food supply fort, defeat Hua Xiong, defeat Li Jue's two sub-generals, Zhang Liao appears as back-up troop general, defeat Zhang Liao -> Lv10 weapon earned message. AllPainful Comment = EXTREMELY EASY TO OBTAIN. To make it easier so you don't have to worry about your commander, kill all but 1 other general on the stage (don't kill them all because if you do Li Jue will retreat) and then go after Hua Xiong and Li Jue's 2 subgenerals then kill Zhang Liao and wait for the message that you earned the weapon before killing Li Jue. NOTE: DO NOT KILL Hua Xiong until your commander says "Is there no one who can challenge Hua Xiong". My character was not even close to being maxed out on ANY stats. Pike Level Experience Power Attacks Name *** 1 0 16 4 Pike 2 1000 19 4 " 3 3000 22 4 " 4 6000 26 5 War Pike 5 10000 29 5 " 6 15000 32 5 " 7 21000 41 6 Star Pike 8 28000 44 6 " 9 35000 47 6 " 10 N/A 56 6 Eclipse Stage = Battle of Hu Lao Gate Side = Allied Troops Scenario Method = Defeat Lu Bu -> Lv10 weapon earned message. AllPainful comment = Surprisingly easier than I thought it was going to be. Rapier *** Level Experience Power Attacks Name 1 0 4 Rapier 2 1000 16 4 " 3 3000 19 4 " 4 6000 23 5 Swift Rapier 5 10000 26 5 " 6 15000 29 5 " 7 21000 37 6 Celestial Blade 8 28000 40 6 " 9 35000 43 6 " 10 N/A 52 6 Nu Wa's Rapier Stage = Yellow Turban Menace Side = Allied Troop Scenario Method = Defeat enemy ambush troop generals He Yi and Yen Zheng -> Lv10 weapon earned message. Muni Comment = Defeat any three enemy generals or reach the area to the top of the castle to trigger the heavy rain event, which will lead to the appearance of He Yi's ambush troop inside the castle. Yen Zheng's ambush troop will appear a short time after He Yi is defeated. Allpainful comment = Yen Zheng appears when Houngful Song himself exits the castle through the north exit which will only happen after He Yi and ALL his troops are defeated. This has got to be the easiest weapon to obtain, even an unleveled up character can do the requirements on hard mode. My Rapier player edit character was still weak in attack and defense, only Life and Musou were even past the half way mark. I didn't need to, but if you are having trouble beating Zhang Liang on hard after obtaining the weapon, then try beating all the other generals (including his sub-generals) and letting him retreat. Great Sword *** Level Experience Power Attacks Name 1 0 17 4 Great Sword 2 1000 20 4 " 3 3000 23 4 " 4 6000 27 5 Crush Sword 5 10000 30 5 " 6 15000 33 5 " 7 21000 42 6 Holy Avenger 8 28000 45 6 " 9 35000 48 6 " 10 N/A 57 6 Fu Xi's Sword Stage = Yellow Turban Rebellion Side = Allied Troop Scenario Method = Defeat all enemy generals -> Lv10 weapon earned message. Muni Comment = Defeating enemy sub-generals is not necessary. AllPainful Comment = I ran up the left the middle to the left and came down the right side. Easy weapon to obtain even for a non maxed out character. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 5. Leveling up weapons: If you Haven't unlocked Yellow Turban Rebellion - Yellow turban's side: A fast way to level up characters weapons (in my opinion) is play Battle of Jian Ye (even on easy mode this works good) and defeat (in any order) Taishi Ci, Zhou Tai and Cheng Pu (even on easy they are still worth 409 Wep EXp a peice). Then find and defeat all the fake Sun Jians. There are 4 total, 1 in the middle fort, and one at the enterances to the Southwest and Southeast forts, defeating any 1 of these causes the 4th one to appear in the top middle fort (even on easy they are still worth 409 Wep EXp a peice as well) Zhuge Jin appears with the on in the top fort, he is also worth 204 Wep Exp. Then defeat IN THIS ORDER Sun Jian, Sun Ce, Sun Quan then Sun Shang Xiang. They are each worth 818 Wep Exp a piece on easy. So excluding any charge attack bonus Wep Exp, the total Weapon Experience obtained is 6339. NOTE: Taishi Ci, Zhou Tai and Cheng Pu do have subgenerals worth about 204 Wep Exp each as well so thats another 1020 if you kill them as well. but if you plan on killing the subs then you should kill ALL the subs BEFORE you kill any of the other generals because killing one of the other generals will trigger the sun family's attack. Killing the last general (in this case Sun Shang Xiang) does not show you on the screen that it gives you weapon experience, but if you run through a level and ONLY beat the last guy you will notice you stil get wep exp. 7359 Weapon Experience for what can take just a few minutes if you have a horse. Not bad in my opinion. My average Weapon Experience earned is about 7007, Its lower than it should be because I was playing it on easy because I was using an unpowered up Meng Hou, so some of the generals on my side ended up killing some of the enemy generals and also every now and then when I got a general to low life somene else would get the final hit in, sometimes it was one of my bogyguards. But the nice thing is that bodyguards and other generals can't get the last hit in on what is considered "The last guy" so you don't have to worry about someone getting the last hit in on Sun Jian, Sun Ce, Sun Quan or Sun Shang Xiang. Average time it took was about 17:12. Now if that ain't enough incentive to try this level then think about this, this level has a ranking of 3 difficulty (when on easy) and it has 4 ITEM drops, I have gotten rare items on this level as well (Herbal Remedy). The Dim Sum snack and Musou Wine are easy to find as well, the Dim Sum Snack is on the northern second floor of the inner castle of the middle fort, the Musou wine is located to the east of the middle building of Sun Jian's fort (bottom middle one). Another note on the times and experience, the above were with Meng Hou. With the player edit rapier who was even lower level then Meng Hou my average time was 10:51 and average weapon experience was 7812. Best Path to take: A good path through the level is the following. Start off going south and kill Cheng Pu's subgeneral, then kill the Sun Jian that is near him, then go north and kill the Sun Jian and Zhuge Jin. Then head west and kill Taishi Ce's subgeneral and another fake Sun Jian, then head south and catch Taishi Ce's other subgeneral. Then head east PAST Cheng Pu without attacking him (if you attack him the Sun family will leave thier main fort, and you don't want that yet.) And kill Zhou Tai's subgeneral, and if his other subgeneral is still alive go north and kill him and another fake Sun Jian too. Then head south and kill Zhou Tai, then west from their and go for Sun Jian, north from there and kill Cheng Pu and Sun Ce (they should be right near eachother now), then head to the southwest and kill Sun Quan and Taishi Ce (they to should be near eachother now) and then head east and kill Sun Shang Xiang. General Location Experience Drop ------------- -------------- ---------------- ---------- Taishi Ci Southwest Fort 409 Zhu Ran Southwest Fort 204 Attack +1 Ding Feng Northwest Fort 204 Item Zhou Tai Southeast Fort 409 Item Xu Sheng Southeast Fort 204 Defense +1 Sun Shao Northeast Fort 204 Cheng Pu Central Fort 409 Item Jiang Qin Central Fort 204 Attack +1 Fake Sun Jian 1 North of Central Fort 409 All Recover Fake Sun Jian 2 North of SW Fort 409 All Recover Fake Sun Jian 3 North of SE Fort 409 All Recover Fake Sun Jian 4 North of N Fort 409 All Recover Zhuge Jin North of N Fort 204 Defense +2 Sun Jian South Central Fort 818 Attack +2 Sun Ce Moves to Center Fort 818 Item Sun Quan Moves to SW Fort 818 Defense +2 Sun Shang Xiang Moves to SE Fort 818 Level over Item in a crate just West of the bottom central fort. In one of the alcoves. Another level I like for leveling weapons is Lu Bu's Revolt. You only get on average about half the exp of Jian Ye, but it can be done in half the time and it doesn't have NEAR as much running around to do because its a small indoor castle level. On HARD you almost the same amount of experience as Jian Ye on easy. And it takes less time if you have at least leveled your character a little. If you Have unlocked Yellow Turban Rebellion - Yellow turban's side: There are MANY generals on this stage. Defeating certian main generals seems to make certain others show up, but I believe they have a time trigger as well so if you don't beat the trigger general in certain time, the general will appear anyway. Also some generals (Like Cao Cao) seem to have multiple triggers as I have had him appear right after beating Sun Jian, and also right after beating Yuan Shao, unless his trigger is a Kill "#" Generals. You must defeat ALL main generals to beat the level. But if your trying to level up your weapons then I suggest defeating the subgenerals as well. As listed in the following chart (This is on easy, and the level is still not a great one to use for a brand new character, you might have some difficulty beating some of the generals if you are not leveled up at all. Don't get me wrong, its can be done, I did it with a sword and spear Character, I'm just saying it won't be easy to do.) NOTE: If your character is not leveled up you have a better chance at a duel than just a head to head fight, becuase in a duel your character and the enemy are changed so that you are close to equals. Also note that when I say "MAIN FORT" I mean the fort that your commander starts in that is located top middle of the map: General Location Trigger Experience - Drop ----------- -------------- ------------ ----------------- He Jin South Fort Start's There 614 - Item Gongsun Zan South of wall east side Start's There 307 - Def +1 Zhao Yun East of Gongsun Zan Start's There 614 - Item Zhu Jun South of wall center Start's There 307 - Def +1 Huangful Song South of wall west side Start's There 307 - Def +1 Sun Jian North of wall west side 614 - Def +4 Huang Gai North of Sun Jian 614 - Att +2 Liu Bei North of wall middle Walk near Zhu Jun 614 - Def +4 Guan Yu West of Liu Bei 614 - Item Yuan Shao Southeast of Main Fort Defeat Liu Bei 614 - Item Yan Liang East of Yuan Shao 307 - Att +1 Wan Chou East of Yan Liang 307 - Att +1 Cau Cau North of wall east side Defeat 3 MAIN Gens 614 - Item Xiahou Yaun South of Cau Cau 614 - Def +2 Xiahou Dun West of Cau Cau 614 - Att +2 Dong Zhuo Main Fort NE corner Defeat He Jin 1228 - Att +2 Hua Xiong Main Fort NW Corner 307 - Att +1 Lu Bu Southeast of Main Fort Defeat Dong Zhuo 1228 - Att +4 Musou Wine - Northeast corner of map (not main fort) Dim Sum Snack - Northeast corner of main fort Max Totals: Att+13, Def+13, Item+5, Lif+10, Mus+10, Weapon Experience +10438 As this is a "Kill Everyone" level, you must decide who's drop you don't want and kill them last. A note on Cau Cau appearing. You must defeat 3 MAIN generals, 1 which starts on the map and 2 that were reinforcements, beating 2 that start on the map and 1 that didn't will not make him appear, you would have to defeat 1 more reinforcement general. My average weapon experience from this level is +11561 (I use alot of triangle attacks and I don't usually end up getting all the kills or it would be higher) If you think one of my triggers is incorrect, or if you know a trigger I don't have listed, feel free to e-mail me. DO NOT E-MAIL ME FOR NOT LISTING A TRIGGER FOR A SUBGENERAL, all the subgenerals appear at the same time as the general they are a sub to. If you would like a listing of the TIMES of the events that happened in my trial runs to see if you can figure out Sun Jian's trigger then e-mail me. REMEMBER credit will be given to those who provide info that I use in this FAQ. Sun Jian 4 out of 5 times appears when Gongsun Zan is killed. But not always. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6. Credits: I created this guide myself, but I still need to give credit where credit is due! Muni Shinobu - For his Level 10 weapon unlocking guide which can be found in his EXTENSIVE list of guides under the title of "Shin Sangoku Musou 3" (the japanese title for the game) at http://www.geocities.com/muni_shinobu/faq/ Chinballz - Let me know of a better weapon leveling stage (I had not unlocked yellow turban musou mode at the time). Yellow Turban Rebelion, Yellow Turban side. Aroung 11000 Weapon experience appearently, I will verify this when I get around to unlocking Yellow Turban Musou mode. *****Update***** I have since verified this. J D - Informed me that Sword 7 Is Yuan Shao's fighting style, and sword 8 was Huang Zhong's *****NOTE***** This info conflics with Clyde Barrows info, but both Huang Zhong and Xiahou Yuan have the same T1. Clyde Barrows - Who says he has personally verified that these charaters match these edit weapons fighting style wise. Sword 1: Zhou Yu Sword 2: Cao Cao Sword 3: Sun Jian Sword 4: Liu Bei Sword 5: Sun Quan Sword 6: Dong Zhuo (Only males can equip this sword) Sword 7: Yuan Shao Sword 8: Xiahou Yuan Sword 9: Gan Ning Sword 10: Huang Zhong Spear 1: Zhao Yun Spear 2: Ma Chao Spear 3: Jiang Wei Pike 1: Zhang Liao Pike 2: Lu Meng. Though I will still make a character with each weapon to make the attacks list just to be sure. Sean Lee - Says Liu Bei seems to be sword 3, I tend to agree. Perhaps Clyde had Sword 3 and 4 mixed up. Dave Chap - Who gave me the weapon names for the level 4 and level 7 Great Sword. Da Jap - Gave me the strength info the the Great Swords ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 7. About me: I am an avid gamer. I favor RPGs, strategy and puzzle games above all others. I have written many "Guides" but mainly for myself and friends use and not for others to use. This is the first "Guide" (if you can call it that) I made for other people to use. Feedback DEFINATLY welcome, if you dislike my guide, please tell me whats wrong with it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 8. Contact info: Any info/corrections/feedback welcome. Credit will be give for any info/corrections. E-mail: Allpainful@yahoo.com (Note: I don't check my e-mail a WHOLE lot, so if my box gets full, just try again later)