I'm enjoying the simplicity of Debian v5 (Lenny) on the old desktop [0]. I realized shortly after the install that I didn't have to rely on the DVDs I had burned to install packages on this box, I could take advantage of the Debian archive mirror itself, which works with Lenny and this sources.list: deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports main deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports-sloppy main The catch is that the archive signing key has long since expired, so you have to take your use of apt on faith and install packages without verification. I wouldn't trust a box this old as a server on the public internet, but this is a home desktop, so I'm fine with that caveat. So what is the draw? The simplicity is definitely a major part of it - I think simplicity is underrated today when it comes to the current crop of Linux distributions. Complex "solutions" like systemd will always be harder to keep stable and secure. It's one philosophy the BSDs continue to get right versus Linux, but was still prevalent in older Linux distributions like Lenny. Part of it, too, is the forced austerity in that I can't do much else but local desktop applications, shell and gopher on this box, given the limitations of ancient iceweasel on a modern web. I could probably setup a TLS proxy on an outside server, but that seems a bit like cheating. Best to leave it and enjoy as-is. [0]: gopher://gopher.unixlore.net/0/glog/debian-lenny.md