(DIR) Home
        
        
       Future of the planet more important than the Greens survival, former
       co-leader James Shaw says
        
 (HTM) Source
        
       ----------------------------------------------------------------------
        
       ### Before he left Parliament, former Green Party leader James Shaw
       sat down for an interview on RNZ's 30 with Guyon Espiner programme. He
       said there were some people in the party who "don't like the fact that
       I seem different from them".
        
       As the Green Party struggles with yet another controversy involving
       one of its MPs, former leader James Shaw has suggested it needs to be
       more open-minded about working with others who do not share its views.
        
       Shaw was speaking before the latest controversy involving the party
       erupted last week. Senior MP Julie-Anne Genter faces an investigation
       by Parliament's privileges committee over her conduct in the House, as
       well as allegations of intimidation by critics of her views in the
       wider public.
        
       Days before the incident that sparked the complaints against Genter,
       Shaw said he was concerned about increasing political tribalism and
       hyper-partisanship in parliament.
        
       "I think a lot of it is driven by global social media giants. The way
       they operate is by taking something that has always existed in our
       society and exacerbating it, supercharging it with technology," he
       said.
        
       "That's not a healthy phenomenon ... the technology that we're using
       that triggers that sense of personal identification with a tribal,
       political niche."
        
       In the unedited interview on _30 with Guyon Espiner_ , Shaw suggested
       he was sometimes made to feel like an imposter within his own party.
        
       "It's been true since I got there. Particular factions within the
       Green Party ... don't like the fact that I seem different from them.
        
       "There would be people who would say that a middle-class white guy in
       a suit with a corporate background isn't the kind of profile that they
       identify with.
        
       "There was this kind of suspicion that I was [something like] a 'Tree
       Tory'. It means, essentially, a right-wing environmentalist."
        
       _* 30 with Guyon Espiner comes out every week on_ RNZ, Youtube, TVNZ+
       _and wherever you get your podcasts._
        
       Shaw, who survived an attempt to oust him as Green co-leader in 2022,
       was quick to brush off these criticisms as "politics" but is adamant
       that overcoming political prejudice is key to solving the climate
       crisis.
        
       "This is the thing that I've always been frustrated about in this
       country, and in politics in general. We're locked into this left/right
       binary, and I think it's really unhealthy.
        
       "If we're going to solve the great challenges of our time, we have to
       get above that sort of petty partisanship and work out what the long-
       term challenges are that we need to fix.
        
       "Frankly, I don't care what your identity is, what I care about is
       whether or not we're actually resolving these challenges together."
        
       ### Deal-making in future governments
        
       The Green Party requires its members to endorse any agreement that
       sees its MPs having a role in government.
        
       Shaw said the Greens were "pretty identifiable as a left-wing
       political party" so people who voted for them did not want a right-
       wing government led by the National Party. But even working with
       Labour in 2017 had been a bitter pill for some members to swallow.
        
       "It was a difficult one getting us over the line even in 2017, but we
       got there," he said.
        
       "My point is, if [the Greens chose to work with National] you might be
       able to stop National from doing even worse things, particularly if
       you're able to block Act and New Zealand First. But you would probably
       be punished at the next election existentially.
        
       "The other view, is that if you look at the current government, by way
       of example, and you say, well, actually, we do care about our planet,
       and we do care about our people, then actually, your own survival as a
       political party should be a secondary consideration to trying to stop
       those bad things from happening, if you can have some good things
       happen.
        
       "I think it's more important than the fate of any political party. I
       don't care about the survival of any of our political parties if the
       survival of our planet is up for grabs."
        
       _Follow the podcast feed now to get every episode of 30 on your phone
       when it lands:_
        
       On Spotify
        
       On iHeartRadio
        
       On Apple podcasts
        
        
        
        
       ______________________________________________________________________
                                                 Served by Flask-Gopher/2.2.1