[HN Gopher] Show HN: CallStop - Superhuman for your phone number
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       Show HN: CallStop - Superhuman for your phone number
        
       Robocalls and unwanted calls are one of the biggest hassles these
       days. Over 50% of phone traffic is spam.  I'm the founder of
       CallStop: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/callstop/id1455892856
       CallStop allows you to:  - Block 100% of robocalls on your current
       number, using your contacts as a whitelist  - Effortlessly email
       call invites to an any email (that can be joined in one tap, the
       PIN is embedded), where the recipient can only call you starting 5
       minutes before the meeting start and up until 5 minutes after the
       meeting end  - Pause call filtering and have it automatically
       resume after a certain time  - Accept whitelist requests to join
       your whitelist, and receive notes from the callers prior to
       accepting  - Specify PINs you can give to loved ones or groups to
       reach you from unknown numbers.  - Get a second phone number with
       which you can give out in lieu of your primary.  CallStop is a
       productivity tool that lets you better manage your time and who can
       reach you.  If you're expecting a call from a business from an
       unknown number, or want to limit a salesperson from calling you
       more than once, CallStop is perfect for managing these
       interactions.
        
       Author : davidajackson
       Score  : 44 points
       Date   : 2020-02-01 17:39 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
       | chadwittman wrote:
       | I really wish this would have come out like 4 years ago. I love
       | the idea, but Apple's newest iOS helped significantly cut down on
       | the robocall annoyance. I'm cheering for you!
        
       | AgentK20 wrote:
       | Any plans for Android? Would happily pay for a service like this.
        
         | aloukissas wrote:
         | Don't know about generic Android, but this works pretty well on
         | Pixel. Automatic "call screen" has eliminated my spam calls to
         | almost zero.
        
         | mceachen wrote:
         | Android's built-in "do not disturb" setting supports silencing
         | all phone calls from numbers not in your address book.
        
           | dangoor wrote:
           | iOS supports this too: https://support.apple.com/en-
           | us/HT207099
        
       | ZARinfluencer wrote:
       | How long is waiting list for your app?
        
       | martin_a wrote:
       | People! You really need to get into politics or whatever and fix
       | those things from a legal side!
       | 
       | You really need to stop inventing services and starting
       | businesses for the most simple things in life!
       | 
       | edit: Don't get me wrong, I love the spirit, but there are _real_
       | problems to tackle and you are still working on stopping
       | telephone spam? It's 2020, nobody should even think about things
       | like that...
        
         | qorrect wrote:
         | What should we be thinking about ?
        
       | armatav wrote:
       | I thought CallKit only allows a blacklist of numbers to block,
       | not a whitelist.
        
       | mehrdadn wrote:
       | Question: does any app (yours or others) block such calls in a
       | manner that prevents them from ringing at _all_? It 's extremely
       | frustrating for me when I use a call blocking app only to find
       | that it still rings for a split second before suppressing
       | afterward, and I have no clue why that happens with every app.
        
         | soared wrote:
         | iOS has a setting to send numbers not in your contact direct to
         | voicemail and those never ring.
        
       | jeremyw wrote:
       | I built a whitelisting phone system for my aging dad with Twilio,
       | an OBi200 VoIP adapter, and gcloud for transcribing untrusted
       | calls sent to voicemail.
       | 
       | (US specific) If you think the aggressive IRS and Sheriff scams
       | are bad -- you've committed a crime only $100 _right now_ will
       | solve! -- the shakedowns targeting enfeebled senior citizens are
       | truly sinister.
       | 
       | Which is to say, people who care for seniors (children of, part
       | time caregivers, etc) are an unserved audience for tools like
       | yours. I would have paid for one had it existed.
        
       | hedora wrote:
       | I like the idea of having a pin.
       | 
       | I wonder if overloading the "extension" field in existing address
       | books would be reasonably ergonomic. Eg:
       | 
       | (555) 876-5309 ext 1337
       | 
       | Or similar syntax should work with legacy systems to share your
       | phone number (and maybe autodial the pin).
        
       | sm4rk0 wrote:
       | _Over 50% of phone traffic is spam._
       | 
       | Please, don't generalize. That statistic is maybe valid in the
       | USA. In my case (Serbia) spam is practically 0%. There's an
       | occasional landline call or two per month but that's enough for
       | making fun by letting our kids answer the phone and troll the
       | spammers. Third world "problems" (:
       | 
       | Anyway, I support your fight against spammers.
        
         | NeutronStar wrote:
         | Please don't generalize your own case either while you're at
         | it.
        
         | bonoboTP wrote:
         | Living in Germany I have received a total of 0 spam calls over
         | several years.
        
           | pzumk wrote:
           | That's because there's actually a law against it. I remember
           | some years ago we always had Werbeanrufe on our landline. We
           | don't have a landline anymore but I've not gotten a single
           | spam call for years now (except from my own home internet or
           | mobile provider, which isn't "spam" per se but still annoying
           | because they sometimes call you five times a day instead of
           | emailing you about some minor things).
        
         | ssoroka wrote:
         | It was about 90% for me, personally; at least for a while. In
         | Canada.
        
         | bestouff wrote:
         | Same thing in France. I wonder if phone spam exists elsewhere
         | than in USA (in UK perhaps) ?
        
           | ssss11 wrote:
           | There's a lot in Australia
        
           | Khamsin wrote:
           | My parents in France get spam calls on their land-line phone
           | almost everyday. It almost never occurs with mobile phones
           | though.
        
           | albertgoeswoof wrote:
           | Nothing much in the UK, maybe once a month if you're unlucky
        
           | leokennis wrote:
           | In the Netherlands, I get called unsolicited and for
           | marketing purposes maybe once a month. The call is always by
           | a human, I've never been called by a robot.
           | 
           | As soon as I notice it's a marketing call I just hang up and
           | if it's not a hidden number, I add it to my "blocked numbers"
           | contact, which I have blocked from incoming calls on my
           | iPhone.
        
             | martin_a wrote:
             | You could also GDPR the shit out of them... ;-)
        
           | tixocloud wrote:
           | Don't get much in the U.K.
        
           | ekabod wrote:
           | My parents in France receives 3 spam calls everyday, the
           | first one always between 9 am and 10 am.
        
           | _-___________-_ wrote:
           | I have mobile numbers in HK, mainland China and UK. I get
           | zero spam on the UK number, and daily spam calls on the other
           | two, although they hang up as soon as they realise I speak
           | neither Cantonese nor Mandarin, which is a good enough spam
           | filter for me :)
        
       | soared wrote:
       | I would've loved this prior to getting a new iPhone, but from my
       | perspective the iOS setting that sends numbers not in your
       | contact straight to voicemail does 90% of what I'd use this
       | service for.
       | 
       | You obviously have some useful features though (I do miss calls
       | on occasion).
        
       | bawolff wrote:
       | Interesting.
       | 
       | I kind of wish there was like an audio captcha app. If the number
       | isnt in your contacts, voice comes on asking them to type some
       | random 4 digit number. Well it is of course anarms race, almost
       | all my call spam is recordings so i think itd be effective.
        
         | gnicholas wrote:
         | Google voice has a feature where you can ask the person to say
         | their name. Not sure if they force you to hit # after or what
         | happens with automated callers, but I could imagine this being
         | a decent solution.
        
       | nlh wrote:
       | Congrats on launching!
       | 
       | One security-related question: I had looked into this area
       | previously as a user and a security-conscious friend pointed out
       | that systems that use call forwarding to stop the spam problem
       | are a HUGE security risk.
       | 
       | You're effectively man-in-the-middling all mobile calls, SMS,
       | etc, and if there's some sort of compromise (or, much less
       | likely, malicious act) on your end, all of us users will be in a
       | tough spot.
       | 
       | Is this accurate? Can you share some thoughts?
       | 
       | (Not trying to knock your business or approach, btw - just want
       | to know if the fears are founded or not.)
        
         | runako wrote:
         | Same thought here. I have been toying with the idea of building
         | something OSS so that people could run it themselves, for this
         | reason.
         | 
         | (Also I have what is possibly a common filtering case in the US
         | that would eliminate 95% of my spam calls without blocking any
         | relevant calls from "new" numbers. And for whatever reason, I
         | have not seen it implemented anywhere yet.)
        
           | nlh wrote:
           | IF (area code == my area code) AND (prefix == my prefix) AND
           | (last 4 != my last 4) THEN SPAM SPAM SPAM ?
        
             | runako wrote:
             | YES
             | 
             | Also: if (area code == my area code) AND (number NOT IN
             | whitelist)
             | 
             | Basically: I have a mobile number in an area I left 15
             | years ago. Any call I get from there that's not one of my
             | friends is de facto spam.
        
           | joshmn wrote:
           | > Same thought here. I have been toying with the idea of
           | building something OSS so that people could run it
           | themselves, for this reason.
           | 
           | I'm in the process of open-sourcing the core part of a SaaS I
           | run that does exactly this. It relies on Twilio but could be
           | easily made to work with any API that exposes the forwarded
           | number, which should be all of them.
        
             | runako wrote:
             | Would love to sign up to get notified when this is ready!
             | 
             | Good luck!
        
       | ThomPete wrote:
       | Congrats on the launch.
       | 
       | My advice is to stay away from the "Like X for your Y". Define
       | your own category otherwise, you will end up just copying way too
       | much of Superhumans thinking.
        
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