[HN Gopher] Intel Axes Nervana Just Two Months After Launch
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Intel Axes Nervana Just Two Months After Launch
Author : rbanffy
Score : 36 points
Date : 2020-02-04 21:36 UTC (1 hours ago)
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| fallous wrote:
| Just a quick reminder when considering Intel products... if it
| ain't Mama x86, it won't be around very long.
| Rafuino wrote:
| Counterpoint: Intel SSDs have been going strong since at least
| 2008.
| mark-r wrote:
| Define "strong". I've never actually seen one.
| freeone3000 wrote:
| They exist on Newegg. You can buy one. I have one.
| zszugyi wrote:
| Would your definition include "I've seen one"?
| mark-r wrote:
| It's rather like proving a negative. If they were really
| popular, chances are I'd have seen one by now - but I
| haven't. That doesn't mean they aren't popular, but it
| reduces the odds.
| avs733 wrote:
| They would rather sell them in bulk...to bulk buyers...for
| scale reasons. They average around 10% of the market. They
| were nukber three days n volume and two in revenue for a
| long time. Still float around that point
|
| https://www.statista.com/statistics/412158/global-market-
| sha...
|
| https://blocksandfiles.com/2019/06/03/ssd-revenue-and-
| shipme...
| CamperBob2 wrote:
| When the only tool you have is a rusty hammer made from an
| alloy of plutonium and Chinese pot metal...
| reitzensteinm wrote:
| Even then, Xeon Phi had a fairly limited run. I hope they're in
| it for the long haul with Xe.
| arcanus wrote:
| > hope they're in it for the long haul with Xe
|
| Hope aside, is there any reason to believe this time is
| different, and that Intel is serious about GPUs?
| mark-r wrote:
| I have this picture in my mind of Charlie Brown, Lucy, and
| a football.
| chrisseaton wrote:
| Intel have implementations of other instruction sets for their
| GPUs, don't they? And have done for years?
| wmf wrote:
| Those GPUs are (crappy) part of x86 chips, not separate
| products. Let's see if Intel's discrete GPUs last more than
| two years.
| lizknope wrote:
| Intel had the i740 GPU in 1998. Poor performance and
| cancelled after 2 years. I don't know what you would call its
| internal instruction set.
|
| Intel was going to release Larrabee, their GPU based on x86,
| in 2010 but cancelled it because of poor performance.
|
| All of Intel's integrated GPUs are adequate for desktop use
| and light gaming but they have poor performance compared to
| any Nvidia or AMD GPU. I don't know what you would call their
| internal instruction set.
|
| We will see how Intel's new Xe GPU does. I'm predicting that
| they will cancel it in 2 years because of poor performance.
| 0xff00ffee wrote:
| Could it be they bought Habana for US$2B?
|
| But this is very intel: get psyched about a technology, dump
| billions into it for a few years, flake out. See: cloud services
| ca. 1997 and IoT ca. every 3 years since 2013.
| pinewurst wrote:
| It was web hosting in 1997 not cloud services - I remember it
| well, as I was working for a vendor. It seemed like such a
| stupid grab for incremental income and coolness even then.
|
| Now they're doing drone shows and sports as incremental
| business attempts. Sometimes I think of Intel as a PR agency
| with a semiconductor fab in the backyard...
| ars wrote:
| > Could it be they bought Habana for US$2B?
|
| That's what the article says. They had two lines that did
| basically the same thing, and axed one of them.
|
| According to the article, the hardware on Nervana was better,
| but the software was worse.
| trsohmers wrote:
| Not the case... AFAIK (based on talking to people who have
| played with Habana test systems), any real performant
| applications still need to be hand optimized with their
| assembly.
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