[HN Gopher] Audit Initiated of FAA's Pilot Training Requirements
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Audit Initiated of FAA's Pilot Training Requirements
Author : infodocket
Score : 23 points
Date : 2020-02-10 20:45 UTC (2 hours ago)
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| erobbins wrote:
| This strikes me as Boeing lobbyists trying to pay people to
| create doubt. "Maybe it's not the plane, maybe the pilots are
| inferior to AMERICAN pilots, yeehaw!"
| Aloha wrote:
| It's not unexpected, flaws aside the MAX issues have shown flaws
| in the way we train pilots, mostly in re increasing airframe
| complexity.
| WrtCdEvrydy wrote:
| Here comes the hammer...
| AWildC182 wrote:
| This sounds a lot like a political deflection rather than a
| hammer. The wording suggests an angle towards foreign
| "international" standards rather than just domestic. This also
| subtly passes blame towards pilots and their training rather
| than the extremely lax airframe certification standards.
| sokoloff wrote:
| There's a non-zero amount of blame that properly lands on the
| pilots and their training, IMO.
|
| Failing to acknowledge that would be passing up an
| _additional_ improvement to safety in the system.
| markdown wrote:
| I live in Fiji and know a few pilots. Fijian pilots have
| traditionally sat ATPL exams out of Australia (CASA). To get this
| ATP License, one needs to pass 7 gruelling theory exams within a
| 2yr period.
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| For some pilots this is too difficult, so recently more pilots
| have been choosing instead to fly to Hawaii and get an American
| ATPL. Getting an American Air Transport Pilot license takes a
| single open-book theory exam.
| dpifke wrote:
| FAA exams are not open book, see:
| https://www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/
| AWildC182 wrote:
| Eh... It's more complicated than that. The US ATPs have a few
| other hoops to jump through beyond the exam. There are ground
| training requirements and a checkride to high precision
| standards. The US is also unusual in requiring 1500 flight
| hours of experience.
| markdown wrote:
| > The US ATPs have a few other hoops to jump through beyond
| the exam. There are ground training requirements and a
| checkride to high precision standards. The US is also unusual
| in requiring 1500 flight hours of experience.
|
| It's the same in Australia, hence I didn't mention those
| requirements. The only difference was the single theory test
| vs the 7 that CASA requires.
|
| > The US is also unusual in requiring 1500 flight hours of
| experience.
|
| Not unusual at all. 1500 hours is the standard in most places
| AFAIK.
| tjohns wrote:
| It's a closed book exam, an in-person oral exam, and a high-
| precision practical flight evaluation. Plus minimum 1,500 hours
| of experience.
|
| Along the way they've probably taken at least 3-4 other other
| written/oral/practical exams, including private pilot,
| instrument, commercial, and multi-engine. And possibly the
| flight instructor exam as well, since that's a common way to
| pay for flight training.
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| Not to mention aircraft-specific type ratings, and biannual
| flight reviews with a check airman.
|
| I think you're selling the requirements a bit short. It's
| certainly not easy.
| markdown wrote:
| > in-person oral exam, and a high-precision practical flight
| evaluation. Plus minimum 1,500 hours of experience.
|
| Yeah that's the same everywhere. OK so the exam is closed-
| book, thanks. I must have heard wrong. The point still stands
| though.
| rkangel wrote:
| This seems fairly reasonable. One of the criticisms of the Max
| situation is that the FAA went along with Boeing's plan that only
| additional minimal training was required. Reviewing those
| standards seems like a good idea.
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