[HN Gopher] Founders share the challenges of running a tech busi...
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       Founders share the challenges of running a tech business
        
       Author : ChanningAllen
       Score  : 94 points
       Date   : 2020-02-14 17:01 UTC (5 hours ago)
        
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       | taylorjacobson wrote:
       | wow, love the honesty of some of these, killer compilation
       | 
       | really liked this --> "From the start, I was aware that I was
       | taking on a huge project that other companies have devoted entire
       | teams to, but I chose to look at it as more of a mental challenge
       | than a technical one. I knew I had the skillset to pull it off, I
       | just had to keep myself motivated and on track."
        
         | c-smile wrote:
         | Heh, that's mine and about my Sciter project.
         | 
         | Sciter is pretty full implementation of HTML5 and CSS, has
         | scripting engine on board, etc. So, indeed, I am personally
         | competing with teams behind WebKit, Trident, Gecko, V8 (JS
         | Engine), Chakra (MS JS Engine) and bunch of others.
         | 
         | And recently with ReactJS (Sciter got Reactor - native
         | implementation of ReactJs), Angular and others.
         | 
         | And that is really a fun project to work on - many different
         | paradigms on the same code base.
        
       | chirau wrote:
       | The site is not working/rendering properly in both Chrome and
       | Firefox.
        
       | nif2ee wrote:
       | Never trust anything that comes from indiehackers, this is a
       | community of professional indie astroturfers and manipulators of
       | everything from renaming the same product and launching it every
       | couple months on ProductHunt and buying upvotes, to baiting HNers
       | with "How I made $X by doing Y". It's a pump and dump scheme on
       | sub-million dollar levels.
        
         | Wordball wrote:
         | hmmm, odd that you're getting downvoted...
        
         | gumby wrote:
         | Not sure why a coffee company is a "tech startup".
         | 
         | (Though TBF Amazon didn't feel like a tech company in the
         | 1990s)
        
           | Wordball wrote:
           | It has a live chat and five different tracking solutions
           | implemented. What about this doesn't look like a tech
           | business?
        
             | gumby wrote:
             | That's just table stakes for a generic retail store Just
             | because I drive a car wouldn't make me a car business.
             | 
             | I think of tech businesses primarily as those that develop
             | novel technology and secondarily as those who use
             | technology in a novel and unexpected way. In both cases
             | technology is the differentiation.
             | 
             | The only novelty of this business is its message and while
             | that might make a perfectly respectable business (I am not
             | part of the target market so I can not judge) there's no
             | "tech" in their business plan. Think of it more like Ralph
             | Lauren and Calvin Klein: the clothes are made in the same
             | factories by the same workers; the only differentiation is
             | market positioning. Nobody would criticize them as not
             | being "business" or even "clothes business" but their
             | differentiator is marketing.
        
         | sosodev wrote:
         | I'm not sure you can lump all of IH together into one big
         | undesirable thing. All platforms have bad apples but there's
         | plenty of good information if you look closely.
        
         | aldoushuxley001 wrote:
         | How can it be a pump and dump if they're not public companies
         | and generally rely on subscriptions?
         | 
         | Indiehackers is a great community that produces a lot of useful
         | content for other bootstrappers. Sorry that you think it's all
         | a fraud, but I suspect you're throwing out the baby with the
         | bath water.
        
       | taylorhou wrote:
       | enjoy how there's perspective given from the responders with
       | their current MRR as well. as a founder of a bootstrapped tech-
       | enabled service startup with $135k+ MRR is cash flow. Accounts
       | Receivable is a PITA and it still hasn't been solved (even with
       | the likes of bill.com, harvest, stripe, paypal, qbo, etc...) -
       | i'd almost pay for a company to outsource our AR to completely to
       | represent us on initial AR, 30-90 day AR, collections, demand
       | letters, and ultimately lawsuits if needed. bleh.
        
         | blizkreeg wrote:
         | at that size, would it be better to just hire an in-house
         | accounting/book-keeping person?
        
           | jermaustin1 wrote:
           | I was going to recommend the same thing, but I also know
           | there are plenty of AR companies out there. YC even funded
           | one called YayPay. I know my accountant will chase down
           | invoices for me if I asked him (for a fee of course),
           | thankfully QuickBooks Online handles this reporting, and has
           | a one click solution to resend Invoices. I don't do $135k/mo,
           | and only send a handful or two of invoices each month, so I
           | cannot comment on how well it scales.
        
       | haidersf wrote:
       | love the honesty
        
       | userium wrote:
       | I'd add the struggle / time it took to really deeply comprehend
       | what 'build, measure, learn' means in practice. And realizing
       | that there is a more scientific approach to building good
       | products. For example by using Hypothesis-Driven Development [1].
       | We wasted lots of time (and money) at the beginning with our own
       | stupid assumptions.
       | 
       | [1] Hypothesis-driven development (HDD)
       | https://teamsuccess.io/hdd
        
       | Alex3917 wrote:
       | Is IndieHackers completely fucked for anyone else right now in
       | Chrome 80.0.3987.106 on MacOS? The js and CSS static assets are
       | getting blocked for some reason, even after disabling all my
       | extensions and refreshing the page in incognito and without
       | cached assets.
       | 
       | edit: Works fine in Safari, but the same thing is happening in
       | Firefox.
        
         | HelloFellowDevs wrote:
         | I had the same issue with the link on both safari & firefox, I
         | used the readerview on firefox as a workaround.
        
       | hhs wrote:
       | With respect to each company, what do the numbers in the
       | parentheses mean? Is that profit, revenue or something else per
       | month?
        
         | randlet wrote:
         | This is almost always (and frustratingly!) Monthly Recurring
         | Revenue.
        
           | lwb wrote:
           | Frustrating how?
        
             | pb7 wrote:
             | Revenue is close to useless if you're selling dollars for
             | quarters. Hard to gauge the efficacy of businesses without
             | the full picture.
        
               | riku_iki wrote:
               | IndieHackers are usually self-bootstrappers, they
               | wouldn't sustain long by selling dollars for quarters.
        
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           | hhs wrote:
           | Good to know, thank you!
        
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