[HN Gopher] Defacto: Factorio-like game in the browser for the P...
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Defacto: Factorio-like game in the browser for the PICO-8
Author : sxp
Score : 199 points
Date : 2020-02-16 16:36 UTC (6 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (www.lexaloffle.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.lexaloffle.com)
| frozenlettuce wrote:
| The gameplay was surprisingly smooth in a mobile device. Congrats
| on the game!
| Brave-Steak wrote:
| I'm sort of impressed that this seamlessly supports touch
| controls on my phone. Is this normal for PICO-8 emulators?
| t0astbread wrote:
| This is amazing. Especially the fact that a PICO-8 game can own
| my brain this much.
| snicky wrote:
| Please, please don't mention Factorio, it's too addictive. I
| bought it on Steam during Christmas 2 years ago and almost forgot
| there's a world outside. I spent 80 hours playing it in a couple
| of days and it was just one game. Later I found out that most
| people beat it much faster
| (https://howlongtobeat.com/game.php?id=17455) and it made the
| guilt of wasting time even stronger.
|
| It is an awesome game though. Just don't start.
| henrikschroder wrote:
| Oh, you liked Factorio? Let me tell you about this game called
| Oxygen Not Included, it's similar, but with more
| thermodynamics, and cute little dupes running around...
|
| I only have 560 hours played so far.
| gridspy wrote:
| You, my friend, are true evil.
|
| Also, I have a lava powerstation.
| henrikschroder wrote:
| I like my magma-powered petroleum boiler.
|
| Still haven't built a sour gas boiler, but one of these
| days I'll get there!
| 6gvONxR4sf7o wrote:
| ONI's bugs killed me. You spend a zillion hours building up a
| colony, then another few hours routing up some wires to get a
| closed feedback system, and then the system glitches and cant
| resolve the wire routing or the pipe routing or something and
| it all breaks down. Frustrating like a programming language
| with no error messages and a buggy compiler.
| glenneroo wrote:
| When did you last play? They frequently release
| updates/bugfixes so you might want to pop in again to see
| if things haven't improved.
|
| Also that's where creative mode really shines - to test out
| ideas because getting the proper ratios plus fighting bugs
| can take a lot of trial and error i.e. "debugging".
| pmoriarty wrote:
| I absolutely love _Factorio_ (it 's one of my all-time
| favorite games), and heard a lot of good things about _Oxygen
| Not Included_ , and the let's plays I saw of it looked great.
| But I found it really boring when I actually tried it. YMMV
| fendy3002 wrote:
| What I love in Factorio and dislike in ONI is how hard it
| is to build closed system that can last for hours in ONI.
| And it's hard to deconstruct in ONI (esp. when heat and
| liquid is involves).
| DonHopkins wrote:
| I'm also extremely addicted to Factorio, and terribly
| afraid of getting hooked on Defacto. And not only because
| it uses a similar 3x5 font as Mike Koss's "The Terminal"
| terminal emulator for the Apple ][:
|
| https://web.archive.org/web/20051217102712/http://mckoss.co
| m...
|
| When I got bored with Oxygen Not Included, I switched it
| into sandbox mode, and played around with the paint brush
| tools, creating and cooking and freezing different
| materials, like a KidPix-like radioactive chemistry set,
| mixing together and juxtapositioning and melting and
| freezing all the different kinds of solids, liquids,
| gasses, lava, oil, water, ice, the hard vacuum of space,
| etc, to see how they all react with each other.
|
| Here's a video Pawsome Gaming made of Sandbox mode, but I
| went a bit crazier with dangerous combinations of water and
| lava and other weird materials:
|
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NniVJd89Gqk
|
| After a while, that got boring too, but don't miss out on
| that part of the experience!
|
| Also: I'm only going to say this once, because even saying
| it once might ruin somebody else's life like it's ruined
| mine, but: RimWorld!
| Buttons840 wrote:
| Come on, just play for 10 minutes!
|
| My last 3 Factorio games have started well, then I try "the big
| rebuild", then it starts to feel like work and I go program
| instead.
| buckminster wrote:
| I had much the same experience with SpaceChem. I haven't
| dared buy Factorio.
| Baeocystin wrote:
| I use unrepentant coal-powered spaghetti until I get nukes
| and bots. Then I auto-deconstruct my shame and let the bots
| deal with my blueprints. :D
| Brave-Steak wrote:
| I've spent over 100 hours on Factorio. Somehow I still haven't
| managed to launch the rocket. I always ending up some cool mod
| and I start a new game.
| sleepybrett wrote:
| ... then I probably shouldn't tell you about satisfactory.. add
| a dimension to your factory.
| keithnz wrote:
| my fastest to finish the game so far is just over 4 hours.
| Which is about twice the fastest speedruns. Check out Nefrums
| who does speedruns of factorio...
| https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo9CIGA3vGlkuGGzTLPvJ5g
| hutzlibu wrote:
| You clearly enjoyed it. So why consider it a waste of time?
| gnulinux wrote:
| Factorio is like entertainment jackpot. You pay $30 and have
| endless entertainment for a lifetime. I played upwards 300
| hours, still no sign of getting burn-out. Probably at some
| point I'll move on, but it's a practically infinite game...
| awalton wrote:
| I'm literally 3000 hours into Factorio and haven't burnt out
| on it. In fact, I'm just barely starting to get into the
| mods; I've done two complete Seablock runs (0.16 and 0.17),
| and I'm currently doing a Brave New World + Seablock run.
| gnulinux wrote:
| Lol I feel that, I still haven't even launched 1 rocket.
| Very close though!
| jfim wrote:
| Have they improved the beginning of Seablock? The last time
| I tried, the beginning of it was so glacially slow that it
| didn't really feel fun.
| wenc wrote:
| Factorio is apparently Tobi Luetke's (CEO of Shopify) current
| favorite game, and in a podcast he mentioned it helped him hone
| the faculties needed to run a company.
| darzu wrote:
| Note that self-reported numbers like that tend to be biased
| towards those who are optimizing for time or are more
| experienced.
| sarah180 wrote:
| Beating Factorio quickly is _not_ the primary point. It 's more
| of an engineering sandbox than an objective. (Of course
| optimizing for time is valid.)
|
| Also, please tell me how to pack 80 hours of anything into a
| couple days. :-)
| asdfasgasdgasdg wrote:
| The primary point of Factorio is what you want it to be,
| right? There are explicitly speedrunning achievements so
| surely that type of thing is the point for some folks. And to
| a certain mindset (time) efficiency is one thing that is fun
| to optimize.
| DonHopkins wrote:
| I've watched a bunch of Factorio vidoes (like
| KathrineOfSky, and her multi player guest games), and it
| strikes me how vastly different people's styles are. There
| was one where she was playing with a German guy who LOVED
| filling in nice neat square coast lines, and she liked to
| leave them all "natural".
| LeifCarrotson wrote:
| You start on a Friday, forego sleep and responsibilities, and
| let your weekend couple-of-days spill into a Monday with a
| brief distracted work day and the early hours of Tuesday.
| awalton wrote:
| > Beating Factorio quickly is not the primary point.
|
| Maybe, but once you get into speed running it, it certainly
| feels like doing things slowly is against the point. (That
| and everything before robots feels so glacially slow... hard
| to adjust with Seablock and robots and good logistics chests
| being so far down the tech tree...)
| darzu wrote:
| For others looking for Factorio-like games, I highly highly
| recommend Satisfactory.
| fragmede wrote:
| https://factoryidle.com/ is another similar game but it's
| browser based for those who aren't on a platform supported by
| Factorio.
| krallja wrote:
| It's called cracktorio for a reason. The factory must grow.
| louwrentius wrote:
| I've wasted 2000+ hours of my life according to Steam on
| Factorio. At this moment I'm beyond shame to admit it.
| dunefox wrote:
| I played it for a couple hours (4-5) with a friend and then
| stopped, because I was bored out of my mind.
| keymone wrote:
| over 1000 hours of entertainment. for less than $30. can't beat
| that. zero guilt.
| butz wrote:
| You know, it can be completed even faster
| https://www.speedrun.com/factorio
| ouid wrote:
| are bridges supposed to function as much more efficient
| inserters?
| myhf wrote:
| Yes. They also act as splitters.
| chapium wrote:
| I'm frequently amazed by what can be built within the limits of
| PICO-8 and Lua.
| gaogao wrote:
| Vox Mine is another super impressive PICO-8 game -
| https://www.lexaloffle.com/bbs/?tid=32894
| swang wrote:
| how do i pick the direction that the insert is put in? using my
| directional arrow keys doesn't seem to work
|
| edit: ah you're suppose to drop the piece then choose the
| direction with your mouse/keyboard
| cabaalis wrote:
| Playing in mobile with the Gameboy-like interface is a joy :)
| escherize wrote:
| I've been playing a great factorio-like called Mindustry. It is
| less resources+logistics and a little more starcraft. It is
| relaxing and satisfying to rebalance resource lines and optimize
| production.
|
| https://anuke.itch.io/mindustry
| jaked89 wrote:
| Where Mindustry falls short for me is where once the waves are
| over, you're forced to leave your base and start all over.
|
| I'm not motivated to invest in optimization if the production
| line is going to be abandoned soon; the game becomes more of a
| tower defense, and less of a production one.
| donio wrote:
| Play custom game, survival mode and see how many waves you
| can survive. I think the campaign is more of a tutorial thing
| and to have a mode with a sense of progression.
| skrowl wrote:
| I felt this same way. Survival is the real challenge.
| Campaign is just for fun / learning the mechanics.
| jakear wrote:
| Have you tried multiplayer? I think it would make
| optimization more important, as I agree in single player it's
| a bit too easy to cheat the system with sloppy production
| lines by just adding hella barricades and getting the best
| guns.
| willis936 wrote:
| Schematics! Like in most industrial automation games the
| player is always the limiting factor.
| progval wrote:
| It's also open source, and the code is very readable / easy to
| hack on, even for someone like me who barely knows Java.
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