[HN Gopher] Perch: a really little CMS
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Perch: a really little CMS
Author : Tomte
Score : 30 points
Date : 2020-02-18 19:12 UTC (3 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (grabaperch.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (grabaperch.com)
| blowski wrote:
| The "elephant in the room" I couldn't find answered on the site:
| if I'm going to use a PHP CMS, why would I not use WordPress or
| Drupal? They both have an enormous community of developers,
| plugins, documentation, and users. At the moment, this feels like
| yet another PHP CMS that will become abandonware within months.
| brundolf wrote:
| WordPress is a nightmare as soon as you have to go beneath the
| surface. The community around it definitely has value, but the
| tradeoff is a bloated monolith that you have to become an
| expert in if you want to do any customization beyond drop-in
| plugins.
| ChrisLTD wrote:
| Perch has been around for a decade. You never know when or if
| something will become abandonware, but Perch isn't something
| new.
| blowski wrote:
| I didn't realise it had been around for so long. Thanks for
| pointing that out.
| tylerchilds wrote:
| Just a shoutout to Rachel Andrew, the co-founder of Perch,
| member of the CSSWG and imo the Champion of CSS Grid.
|
| https://rachelandrew.co.uk/
| oakesm9 wrote:
| Perch was first launched in 2009 and is very different in
| architecture from WordPress or Drupel.
|
| https://grabaperch.com/news?page=33
| [deleted]
| jpswade wrote:
| It's little. I think perch has been around for about 10 years
| or more.
| Nickersf wrote:
| I love it. Use it for client work to this day.
| vorpalhex wrote:
| There's a ton of these little php CMSs but it feels like
| inheritating the entire attack surface of LAMP or even just an
| apache + php stack is insane these days.
|
| Use a static site generator. Maybe have a nice UI around it.
| Publish the whole thing to S3 or whatever CDN fronted storage
| solution you like. Almost no attack surface, mindlessly easy,
| very cheap.
| brundolf wrote:
| > Use a static site generator.
|
| Regardless of how you serve the end-user site (generated ahead-
| of-time or at request time), there's enormous value in backing
| it with a database and providing non-technical maintainers a
| friendly UI over that database for managing their own content.
| If you want something more minimal than the OP, you might go
| look up something called "Headless CMS".
| ncphillips wrote:
| Forestry.io is a headless CMS that is backed by Git. It is
| made for Static Site generators and the content is still kept
| in your repository.
| fenwick67 wrote:
| I'd love to see a CMS that runs on your local PC to drive a
| well-known static generator (Hugo, jekyll etc). This seems
| like the best of both worlds; no attack surface and easy to
| use.
| thrwaway69 wrote:
| https://getpublii.com/
|
| There are others as well.
| smacktoward wrote:
| There's nothing saying you couldn't provide a friendly UI _on
| top of_ a static site generator. The first big hit CMS for
| publishing blogs, Movable Type
| (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movable_Type), worked exactly
| that way -- it used MySQL as its content store and provided a
| nice WYSIWYG interface for working with content, but when you
| hit "Publish" it ground out your site as a set of static HTML
| files.
| brundolf wrote:
| The parent comment seemed to be suggesting that people use
| a static site generator "instead of a CMS". Part of what I
| was trying to do with my comment is point out the
| orthogonality of the two. A static site generator is just a
| glorified cache over a normal web server.
| kroltan wrote:
| Kinda agree. I use Airtable as the CMS for my personal website,
| and it's actually pretty quick to whip up pages with Gatsby (or
| whatever floats your boat in terms of SSG), then throw it onto
| some hosting and tada!
|
| I even made some webhooks so I can trigger rebuilds from within
| Airtable, so when I change stuff I don't need to worry about
| going to the host and manually clicking rebuild.
| Tomte wrote:
| > Maybe have a nice UI around it.
|
| I only know about Lektor and MovableType. Arte there more SSGs
| with some kind of web interface to write and edit posts?
| raben_ wrote:
| publii has a very well polished GUI https://getpublii.com/
| tekknolagi wrote:
| Jekyll has jekyll-admin: https://github.com/jekyll/jekyll-
| admin
| marc_io wrote:
| Use Stackbit to create your combo of SSG, Theme and CMS.
| https://www.stackbit.com/
| vorpalhex wrote:
| Forestry.io supports an entire mess of site generators
| including Hugo and Jekyll. You can also leverage Github or
| Gitlab's ui directly to edit or create files.
| Doches wrote:
| Forestry.io is a nice wrapper around a bunch of SSGs, backed
| by git. It's a paid subscription, but with a pretty generous
| free tier. I'm using it so my less-technical co-founders can
| edit our Jekyll-based support site.
| squarefoot wrote:
| I was just thinking that static site generators would deserve
| their own awesome list, and there we go. Someone already made
| one.
|
| https://github.com/myles/awesome-static-generators
| pvorb wrote:
| https://staticsitegenerators.net/ includes a comprehensive
| list and has been around for a while.
| squarefoot wrote:
| Even better, and sortable. Thanks!
| tunesmith wrote:
| You can also use something like NextJS's static pages, where
| you can still use React for client-side interactivity that
| doesn't require dynamic server communication.
| jitl wrote:
| I used Perch for freelance web development back in '10 and it was
| great - just the features I needed, and simple enough to share
| with clients. Well worth the price.
| benfrain wrote:
| "It's all about the comments". All these static site generators
| are fine but they can't deal with comments. Then you have to add
| a commenting system from a 3rd party, at which point you may well
| wish you'd just gone with a PHP/DB solution from the beginning
| winrid wrote:
| Well I just launched fastcomments.com which you could use :p
| markandrewj wrote:
| You can use webhooks for this. As an example:
| https://staticman.net/docs/
| deminature wrote:
| Seems great, but gating the demo behind an email signup seems
| like it would bounce a lot of potential customers. It certainly
| killed my interest in looking at the demo.
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