[HN Gopher] PipeWire 0.3 - JACK compatibility layer with compara...
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PipeWire 0.3 - JACK compatibility layer with comparable performance
to JACK2
Author : c487bd62
Score : 82 points
Date : 2020-02-22 16:42 UTC (6 hours ago)
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| misterbishop wrote:
| Jack, while incredibly powerful has been a huge hurdle for pro
| audio on Linux. I'm looking forward to Pipewire being the default
| audio interface. Hopefully it drives a revival of the Linux sound
| engineering community and new software projects. Specifically the
| lack of a user friendly loop/sample-based recording tool like
| Ableton Live is glaring.
| scns wrote:
| Check out Bitwig
| paulie_a wrote:
| Does it work with a launchpad? Or is there any other options
| that do? Ableton and virtualdj are literally the only pieces
| of software I keep windows for.
|
| Edit: sidenote is there any software works with a mixtrax3
| unixhero wrote:
| Bitwig was created by Ableton employees.
| jcelerier wrote:
| > Specifically the lack of a user friendly loop/sample-based
| recording tool like Ableton Live is glaring.
|
| Slowly I'm trying to get https://ossia.io there... any help
| appreciated :D
| cycloptic wrote:
| Can you describe what some of your hurdles have been? Pipewire
| is probably not going to solve your issues as it's not a
| complete replacement for JACK [0] and uses the same API anyway.
| Realistically, if you're writing a new DAW, you're still going
| to want to use the JACK API. If your problems are driver-
| related, that definitely won't be solved by switching to a
| different audio daemon.
|
| And for the record, the open source audio community is not
| dead. There is activity, but you have to know where to look.
|
| [0]:
| https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/wikis/FAQ...
| PaulDavisThe1st wrote:
| To be fair, as the original author of JACK and the lead
| author of one the main DAWs on Linux, we no longer encourage
| the use of JACK with Ardour.
|
| JACK is an exceptional powerful tool (if I do say so myself)
| but it is overkill for the majority (maybe even the vast
| majority) of users. We try to encourage most Ardour users to
| use its builtin ALSA audio/MIDI I/O support rather than JACK
| these days.
| cjsthompson wrote:
| Before giving others lessons you should get your facts
| straight. PipeWire is meant to be a complete replacement for
| not only JACK, but also PulseAudio. One of it's goals is to
| merge the functionality of both of these and only provide a
| compatible API for apps as a convenience. It will be possible
| to write apps that don't use these. Internally it's different
| from JACK and PulseAudio. Other goals include better latency
| and better handling of dynamically plugged audio interfaces
| which is currently a mess with JACK. It's also an attempt at
| simplifying the linux audio stack.
| PaulDavisThe1st wrote:
| The reasons why a tool like Live exists or does not exist on a
| platform has essentially zero relationship to the APIs used for
| audio and MIDI I/O.
|
| As others have noted, Bitwig already exists - in some ways, it
| is more powerful than Live (and in others, less). It is also
| proprietary.
|
| Also, Live is not the kind of tool that most people would
| associate the term user friendly with. It's quite hard to get
| started using Live, despite the program being basically 100%
| awesomesauce. Live is extremely friendly towards a certain kind
| of workflow for "in-the-box" music production, and has
| fundamentally changed the entire zeitgeist surrounding making
| music with computers. But it's not a replacement for linear
| timeline DAWs (like ProTools, Logic, Sonar, Ardour etc. etc.)
| and has its own foibles and certainly its own complexities and
| limitations.
|
| I anticipate that the next major release of Ardour will have
| some Live-like features starting to arrive.
| PaulHoule wrote:
| Note this is developed by a Red Hat engineer, so this is an an
| open source IBM contribution to Linux.
| BlackLotus89 wrote:
| I tried getting it running and working two weeks ago and sometime
| today as well. I had some real problems getting it working. The
| compilation ran without a hitch, but getting jack, alsa or
| pulseaudio to work wasn't really possible. Wanted zo open bug
| reports and read the wiki on github but they moved it to the
| freedesktop gitlab, but didn't update the links. Also the pages
| are mostly out of date or without any relevant information, but
| plans.
|
| Can't wait to get a seamless setup for it, but I guess 0.3 is
| still too early for early adopters...
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