[HN Gopher] Myst: the Drawbacks to Success
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Myst: the Drawbacks to Success
Author : zdw
Score : 42 points
Date : 2020-02-22 18:29 UTC (1 days ago)
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| thorum wrote:
| Myst's style of gameplay (user jumps from environment to
| environment by clicking) seems like it would be a great fit for
| the current generation of virtual reality headsets.
| pavlov wrote:
| I'm fascinated by the "outsider" profile of the Myst creators.
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| Per the article, they didn't play contemporary games and only
| used off-the-shelf GUI tools on the niche Mac platform -- this in
| an era where "real games" used handcoded x86 assembly. Yet their
| creation outsold practically everyone in the industry by an order
| of magnitude.
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| Where are the tools today for someone like this to be successful?
| Unity is of course impressive but seems very tightly bound to
| gaming industry thinking -- not that approachable or interesting
| to an outsider.
|
| Around 2000-2005, the Flash GUI had lots of potential here... But
| then Adobe turned Flash into a programmer-oriented sprawling
| mini-Java and eventually Apple threw it under the iPhone bus.
| Waterluvian wrote:
| Look up "Dreams" on the PS4. This is absolutely today's version
| of that.
| pcunite wrote:
| Myst was captivating. Visually so "immersive" with just enough
| graphics to really stimulate what "might" be around the corner. I
| truly could sense that I was somewhere else, another planet or
| whatever, abandoned, with me to explore.
| mdonahoe wrote:
| " the overlap between players of games like Doom and those like
| Myst is inevitably limited. (The surprising thing is that an
| overlap exists at all...)"
|
| Really? Is it that rare to like both?
|
| I find this hard to believe.
| vitaflo wrote:
| I do too, especially because when you combine the two you
| basically end up with Metroid Prime, another very popular well
| made game.
| eps wrote:
| Yeah, that's a pretty odd statement to put it mildly. Probably
| an over-extrapolation from an insufficient sample set.
| abruzzi wrote:
| Myst was really the last game I played. As the article mentions,
| Doom was released at about the same time, and really became the
| blueprint for the future of gaming. My problem was I couldn't
| play a FPS for more than 10 minutes or so before bad headaches
| kicked in.
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| Sometimes I wonder if Myst was like Angry Birds. A game that
| gamers hated because it didn't conform to their expectations, but
| something that found mor purchase with people that didn't game
| heavily.
| eps wrote:
| Also, a 2 hour (!) interview with Rand Miller by Arstechnica,
| which has been absolutely killing it lately with their in-depth
| gamedev coverage -
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| https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/02/an-extended-interview...
| danso wrote:
| For some reason I vaguely remember 1993 as having a 7th Guest vs
| Myst marketing theme. To this day I still haven't played Myst but
| my memories of 7th Guest have not grown fonder with time.
| arminiusreturns wrote:
| I loved 7th Guest! I mean yes looking back it seems a bit
| cringe-worthy, but the merging of video into a game that had a
| decent creepy factor made me want more and set me on a course
| of enjoying creepy/scary video games.
| SlowRobotAhead wrote:
| I can't remember if I liked 7th guest or 11th hour better.
| But I distinctly remember playing both and myst and thinking
| the graphics in video games were amazing :)
| mattbillenstein wrote:
| Play realMyst - it's a fun experience.
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