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Show HN: Profit Hunt - Get inspired by profitable online projects
Author : andrewash
Score : 400 points
Date : 2020-02-28 08:08 UTC (14 hours ago)
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| _hao wrote:
| First row entry has the link to the second row entry.
| z3ncyberpunk wrote:
| Nothing about capitalism is "inspiring". I'm inspired by projects
| that lift humanity, not ones that worship money.
| omarchowdhury wrote:
| What are some good examples of that?
| turbostyler wrote:
| The mobile UI is horrible. It's impossible to tell when one
| starts and another begins. You could solve this very easily by
| wrapping the list items in a card component and using different
| font weights and sizes for different pieces of information. Hint:
| business name should be the largest. Good luck.
| andrewash wrote:
| Thank you! Really appreciate the suggestions and pointers. Will
| improve the mobile layout within the next 2 days
| tryitnow wrote:
| I love this. In literally less than five minutes it's already
| given me some really valuable insights and inspiration.
|
| Feedback: make the table sortable and filterable, everyone's
| going to want to sort by revenue and people might want to filter
| by source.
| omarchowdhury wrote:
| The Makerpad data is incorrect. The source:
| https://www.makerpad.co/blog/building-without-code-and-reach...
| is referring to a different company generating 55k/mo revenue,
| not Makerpad.
| swat535 wrote:
| I guess this is the time for a friendly reminder to read your
| employment contracts and agreements carefully and exercise
| caution before launching an online side project business whilst
| being employed.
|
| Failure to do can have serious consequences and the
| laws/enforceability vary greatly depending on your country of
| residence and the company.
|
| That being said, great website OP!
| crispyporkbites wrote:
| > serious consequences
|
| Any citations? If you're not launching a competitor, using your
| employers IP or doing some nefarious, why would they care?
|
| How many employers would want some side project generating
| 20k/year, what would they do with it? Would they sue the
| employee? What for?
|
| Genuine question.
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| Ancalagon wrote:
| Favorited this post. Wow this was really eye-opening for me. I
| think this is proof I've been thinking about implementing ideas
| that are too complicated in the tech space. Thank you for
| posting.
| servercobra wrote:
| Interesting...is this a Notion page?
| dewey wrote:
| Or with more products and Stripe verified revenue:
|
| https://www.indiehackers.com/products?revenueVerification=st...
| martin_a wrote:
| If Indiehackers would not be such a bad website. It could be a
| really nice website, but somebody thought it should be an app
| and it sucks.
| harrisreynolds wrote:
| Honestly I think the IndieHackers website looks nice. I need
| to get Webase [1] added to IndieHackers!
|
| I get a strong "spartan" vibe from Profit Hunt ... or maybe
| just sparse! :-)
|
| [1] https://www.webase.com
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| XCSme wrote:
| It looks ok, but for me the loading times are awful,
| sometimes it takes 10s+ to load a page.
| 100-xyz wrote:
| Agreed. It's terribly slow and has crashed my browser a
| few times.
|
| The content is good but their tech is terrible.
| dewey wrote:
| If you look at the network tab and the web sockets you
| know why. It's crazy what they are doing in the
| background to get this simple interface to load.
| harrisreynolds wrote:
| Maybe we need an indie hacker to help them understand
| caching over at IndieHackers. :-)
| cuu508 wrote:
| JS files served by IndieHackers do have caching headers.
| But there's _4MB_ of JS.
|
| Compare to HN, a single 2KB script for submitting votes
| without page reload, and that's it.
| nojvek wrote:
| Webase is great. Love the name.
| csallen wrote:
| That was me. If I could go back in time 3.5 years and make a
| different decision, I would! Unfortunately I don't have time
| to do a full rewrite today. (I'm the only developer/designer
| on IH.) But I do try to make regular incremental improvements
| around performance.
| kumarm wrote:
| IndieHackers is a great resource. It serves its purpose
| very well and built a great community. That is all that
| matters.
| fimoreth wrote:
| Sure the tech isn't great, but you've made a really great
| community with great content. You shouldn't be ashamed of
| choices at all - tech doesn't have to be perfect to deliver
| on its goals.
| nojvek wrote:
| Csallen. I love the site. I understand you're the only dev
| /designer. Why not open source the GitHub repo so others
| can send pull requests and make it better.
|
| FWIW. I visit your site every day and look at the top
| posts.
|
| You've probably single handedly created a community of
| people who go solo and build profitable things.
|
| I remember YC refraining from funding solo founders. It
| turns out there are 1000s of solo profitable businesses and
| you don't need to go YC route. Thanks for giving me that
| confidence.
| jamil7 wrote:
| The community and content is great. Outsource some of the
| work?
| cambalache wrote:
| I really dont know what happened with the redesign, the
| original site was fine. Then they did this "fancy" redesign
| and it sucks so much that it limits my visit and time spent
| there despite the content which it can be pretty good. It is
| honestly baffling.
| mrborgen wrote:
| I wish there was a way to connect both PayPal and Stripe
| revenue, as we make about half our revenue through each of
| these payments processors. I can imagine a lot of other
| companies are in similar situations.
| awb wrote:
| Stripe bought IndieHackers so I don't think this feature is
| in the roadmap.
| toomuchtodo wrote:
| Just need Stripe to buy Paypal.
| csallen wrote:
| I'll probably add PayPal eventually. Just a matter of
| finding the time! There's nobody at Stripe telling me not
| to, nor did anyone at Stripe suggest I add Stripe-verified
| revenue in the first place.
| tpaksoy wrote:
| We recently added support to one of our projects to use
| Stripe out-of-band invoices, and pay these invoices using
| Paypal/Braintree
| mikkom wrote:
| Revenue is not the same as profit.
| dewey wrote:
| If you click on the links on Profit Hunt you see that they
| mostly link to posts saying "revenue".
| Cenk wrote:
| The Stripe verification is what sets IndieHackers apart from
| all the other similar sites
| gnicholas wrote:
| What happens if you have revenue from other sources? Most of my
| large customers prefer not to use Stripe, and due to Stripe's
| fees, I prefer to avoid it also. My largest payments are all
| ACH or paper check.
| fastball wrote:
| That link is broken for me.
|
| It does not show anything with a revenue higher than $0 by
| default. In order to get it working, I need to turn off
| "verified by stripe" and then turn it back on again.
| TAForObvReasons wrote:
| You can also click "Sort By", then "Revenue: High to Low".
| That seems to refresh the result
| OJFord wrote:
| Good god, is this real? https://karmabot.chat/
|
| Am I wearing enough pieces of flair?
| jfk13 wrote:
| So basically, companies are supposed to reward people for being
| gregarious/outgoing/funny/popular on Slack, rather than for
| getting their work done?
|
| Some of the most valuable team members just quietly get things
| done, without making a song and dance about it and drawing
| everyone's attention. Sucks to be them, I guess.
| jetti wrote:
| We use this at work and don't have any of the issues you are
| talking about. The only time I've seen the karma bot used is
| when an individual goes above and beyond for another
| individual. I have yet to see any other use of it, such as
| what you described. We are a remote-ish team (we have people
| in a centralized office but also have workers throughout the
| country) and all of our communications go through Slack. The
| use of karma bot for our department is to recognize hard work
| to all, even those who aren't in the office.
| Mountain_Skies wrote:
| My former employer did this until the most popular person and
| post was the one who complained about the lack of COLA raises
| after the CEO received a ten million dollar bonus. They tried
| hard to squash the whole discussion without being heavy
| handed but that failed miserably so they eventually told
| everyone to shut up and deleted the post. They've since
| changed the social media platform to something that allows
| them to approve all posts before they're seen by anyone else.
| I'm told now no one bothers to use it except HR and senior
| management for making announcement.
| OJFord wrote:
| And any Slack interaction you do have is incentivised to be a
| fake (or at least shallow) happy-clappy karma-driven
| demonstration of Core Values and Team Spirit.
| jamil7 wrote:
| I'm very confused. Can someone explain what this does?
| OJFord wrote:
| As I understand it, it's like HN voting, but where the
| guidelines say you must work hard & espouse Core Values, and
| the points _do_ matter.
|
| And these appraisals are weekly, shared with your colleagues,
| and administered by a Slackbot. Welcome to 2020.
| iudqnolq wrote:
| Reward your high-karma team members with Amazon gift cards or a
| day off ... guess that could never be exploited?
| zrobotics wrote:
| Saddest part is that in their marketing, right next to that
| is dinner for _one_!
| tonyhb wrote:
| I suppose if you're an engineer out of touch with humans that
| wants to automate the motivation of your team...
|
| I have no idea.
| jetti wrote:
| We actually use this at work and it seems to be ok. I don't
| know anything about it other than your able to use a command in
| slack to give somebody karma and there is a running total that
| the individual has.
| idreyn wrote:
| I have less of a problem with the product itself than the way
| it's marketed, with completely unsubstantiated claims about
| improving employee retention. The message I get here is "your
| employees are like small children that need to be managed with
| Slack trinkets", which is too bad, because I think the bot
| itself looks kinda neat.
| hkt wrote:
| Somebody monetised karma bots. Wow. I remember making one of
| those in mIRC script twenty years ago.
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| mushysyntax wrote:
| awesome job, a real great resource for bootstrapped companies
| ike0790 wrote:
| this is cool
| saadalem wrote:
| I m just in love with the simplicity of the website ! Good Job !
| nikodunk wrote:
| Agreed - it takes a lot of restraint to get a website this
| simple and clear. Great job!
| martinle wrote:
| It's very difficult to read on mobile..
| terminaljunkid wrote:
| In Firefox / Chrome, tick "view desktop site" from three dot
| menu, and view in landscape mode.
| werber wrote:
| On mobile the list items are really hard to differentiate
| jkeuhlen wrote:
| I'm at a stage where I have a side project that works well for
| me. I'd like to open it up and allow other people to start using
| it, but I'm not really sure how to take it from fun project to
| side business. Do I need to hire a lawyer to draft a Privacy
| Policy and ToS? Do I need to incorporate an actual business in
| order to open an account with stripe to accept payments? Anyone
| have resources on the legal/operational part of this process?
| jv22222 wrote:
| Hiya, I've written some stuff about this. Hope it's helpful.
|
| Don't Form a Company https://blog.nugget.one/upstart/dont-form-
| a-company/
|
| Debunking Some Conventional Startup Wisdom
| https://blog.nugget.one/upstart/thanks-for-the-advice-grandp...
| carterehsmith wrote:
| Hmmm, regarding " https://blog.nugget.one/upstart/dont-form-
| a-company/"
|
| you can set up your corp once, then present it as "doing-
| business-as" (DBA), depending on the jurisdiction, many
| times. I am not convinced that the above is good advice.
|
| In fact, talking to a lawyer is probably better idea than
| picking up ideas from some blog.
| crowdbloom wrote:
| "Don't form a company" means you are personally legally
| exposed. I'm not a lawyer, I may be wrong, but this seems
| risky.
| i_v wrote:
| I think it's more up to a person's accepted risk and the
| nature of their business concept. One thing mentioned in
| the linked article is the advice that you use an existing
| entity if you've previously formed one for consulting or
| some other business. I'm 100% in favor of that since the
| early stages of a startup are often full of non-starts.
| crowdbloom wrote:
| Sure. I can agree with that part. One doesn't have to
| form corporations for each idea, but if you are taking
| payments and offering a service or product that may
| impact another person or business then being protected is
| important.
| ska wrote:
| Agreed - the risk/reward seems off here. It will probably
| be fine, but you could potentially end up in legal hell
| and risk your family assets.
|
| Why not a "parent" company you keep going indefinitely,
| spin off other entities as needed?
|
| This all varies by jurisdiction of course, but last time
| I did something like this I filled out the paperwork
| myself and it cost a couple hundred only. Gets more
| complicated with more structure, etc. and any legal work
| you need - but you don't need to pay for that before it's
| justified.
| hopia wrote:
| I'd advise getting other users to use it for free first before
| you dive into any paperwork. Basically, make sure you're
| solving a problem worth money for others first.
| uaas wrote:
| I am in a similar situation, but we are already open for free
| (that is a must i think at first) I was thinking selling
| support, offering consulting with the setup etc. but what
| would be the strategy for having paid support and open github
| issues at the same time?
| sah2ed wrote:
| If there's some element of open source in your business,
| you can start here [0] for various ideas on how to
| monetize.
|
| 0: https://github.com/nayafia/lemonade-stand#table-of-
| contents
| hopia wrote:
| Yours is an open source project? The revenue logic there
| could be very different from a conventional web business.
|
| I don't have any first hand experience with such a
| situation myself, but perhaps studying some successful
| cases could get you to the next step:
| https://www.indiehackers.com/interview/how-charging-money-
| fo...
| heliodor wrote:
| Go to https://IndieHackers.com, copy paste the story you
| explained here, give a brief description of your product, ask
| for a few people to try it out. The crowd there is helpful and
| is willing to spend the time with you.
| jkeuhlen wrote:
| I've been thinking about joining the site but wasn't sure how
| helpful it would be; thanks I'll give it a shot.
| grantsch wrote:
| you can sell it to my team then you won't have to
|
| open to potentially doing a profit-sharing deal as well if it's
| good.
|
| grantschiller18 at [google's email service] dot com
| megablast wrote:
| You have a "team", yet Gmail is your primary email? Ok
| jkeuhlen wrote:
| Just curious, without any other information presented at all,
| you just buy up people's side projects? How does this work?
| grantsch wrote:
| We want to work on something cool and this is one way to
| jump in.
|
| I think it's really case by case if it works or not.
| buzzy_hacker wrote:
| If you're already looking into Stripe for payments, you should
| check out Stripe Atlas: https://stripe.com/atlas It might be
| too much for what you're looking for, but could give you an
| idea
| gnicholas wrote:
| The good news about ToS and Privacy Policies is that every
| company you do business with makes theirs publicly available.
| So find a couple companies that are similar to yours in terms
| of business model and/or size, and read theirs. Then put
| together something of your own. If you have a friend who is a
| lawyer or has worked on these sorts of issues at a startup (as
| a non-lawyer), have him/her review it. But don't stress out
| about this part too much, since you're not much of a target for
| enforcement actions when you're very small.
| mirap wrote:
| Link to Eastros is missing.
| alokdhari wrote:
| http://c2x.eastros.com
| andrewash wrote:
| Thanks! Fixed
| abinaya_rl wrote:
| I just submitted mine -> https://remoteleaf.com
| hbcondo714 wrote:
| Great UI / UX of getting visitors to pick & choose a paid plan
| right on the homepage.
| andrewash wrote:
| Thank you! Added to the top :)
| yboris wrote:
| This is awesome! Thank you!
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