[HN Gopher] Windows93
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Windows93
Author : piqufoh
Score : 469 points
Date : 2020-03-02 11:14 UTC (11 hours ago)
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| PatrolX wrote:
| So good, so very very good!
| cstross wrote:
| Oh dear Cthulhu, I'd totally forgotten about the Hamsterdance!
| rjsw wrote:
| ITYM Hampsterdance.
| Symbiote wrote:
| That was one of the first daft websites I remember visiting,
| when it was first possible to use the Internet on a computer at
| school. (That's _a_ computer, the one with the dial-up modem.)
|
| Start - Programs - hampster to see it here.
|
| [1] http://www.angelfire.com/id/hern/ and then open
| http://www.angelfire.com/id/hern/images/plasticjesus.wav and
| play it on repeat, since web browsers won't do this
| automatically any more.
| thinkloop wrote:
| All the apps work, this must have taken forever, there's a full
| solitaire game, ms paint, etc. each one not that easy to do in
| JS, well done. I wonder why? It's a lot more than a proof-of-
| concept or prototype.
| aliswe wrote:
| Honestly using this on a phone is not very far from the android
| ui.
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| previous hits from past 1-5 years
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12691597
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14531578
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9162566
|
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8507786
| ChrisArchitect wrote:
| wasn't calling foul (Despite it being very old) more sharing
| some previous hits for the extra commentary
| pbhjpbhj wrote:
| Which is appreciated. Surprised there isn't a bot/autopost
| with past times a story was discussed. @dang, pull your
| finger out! ;o)
| zokier wrote:
| There is "past" link between "hide" and "web" in the
| subtext thingy
| pbhjpbhj wrote:
| Yeah, that functionality, and the presence of dupe
| detection when posting, is what makes it a surprise to me
| that when they let a "dupe" through that they don't use
| the existing functions to just list the past stories.
| dang wrote:
| I post links to previous threads a lot, and find that
| there's enough judgment required to do it properly that
| I'm skeptical about automating it. Maybe I'll get over
| that, because doing it manually is a pain.
|
| https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false
| &qu...
|
| https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&
| que...
| piqufoh wrote:
| Grah - I had checked for previous posts, but only by pasting
| the URL into HN search (no hits). I'll try harder next time,
| apologies for the noise.
| jonnycomputer wrote:
| Well, I didn't see it then, and well, glad to see it now.
| exikyut wrote:
| Don't worry about it - it wasn't posted _too_ recently so the
| rules haven 't been dented, and it's amusing.
| djsumdog wrote:
| Hackernews clears the existing post check after a given time
| period. Refreshing old stuff occasionally is not against the
| rules and sometimes encouraged because not everyone sees it
| the first time, or sometimes people just like to comment on
| reruns.
| dang wrote:
| Reposts are ok after a year or so. This is in the FAQ:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.
| dr_zoidberg wrote:
| Last one (from GPs list) was from 2017. I wouldn't call this
| a blatant repost by any means. And there are some good
| conversations going on too, so there's value in that.
|
| My point: don't sweat it, it was good that you posted this.
| kilo-bite wrote:
| It's a classic link worth sharing again. People more often need
| to be reminded of the classics than shown something new
| neogodless wrote:
| I'm pretty upset that I couldn't outsmart the AI and win tic-tac-
| toe. I wrote some tic-tac-toe "AI" a while back, and it wasn't as
| good as this one. I could beat mine...
| gugagore wrote:
| Just in case someone doesn't know better, there are fewer than
| 300k possible games of tic-tac-toe.
| parasanti wrote:
| Defrag works as expected.
| fireattack wrote:
| Text rendering seems off. Some are clear but some are very
| blurry: https://i.imgur.com/G2lyFEY.png
|
| Is this intentional or just a bug?
| calmconviction wrote:
| Does anyone remember the address to a website that loaded
| basically a full blown VM of a random vintage OS? This reminded
| me of that and I've been wracking my brain to try to remember it
| mpoteat wrote:
| Search for Fabrice Bellard.
| kempbellt wrote:
| Very cool. Technology has come far.
|
| Sidenote: Is it just me, or is the minesweeper game designed to
| make you lose every time?
| DangitBobby wrote:
| It's not just you. The original minesweeper generates mines
| after your first click so it can ensure you will not lose on
| the first click. This version seems to instead make sure a mine
| is always under your cursor after the first click. I love it.
| topaz0 wrote:
| I managed to beat it on intermediate.
| smilekzs wrote:
| How?
| ComodoHacker wrote:
| In the Trollbox chat log I see
|
| >~anonymous is now known as wuhan-clan
|
| Is this added lately? If so, its very convincing.
| usrusr wrote:
| Social media on windows93.net is a massive live UGC sandbox.
| Take for example https://myspace.windows93.net/ , you could
| spend days getting lost in retro parody reenactment without
| even wrapping the experience in the windows93 desktop.
| mshockwave wrote:
| I like the Half-life 3
| bigyanshr wrote:
| Good old days :D
| ryanmercer wrote:
| Oops, lenna.png is definitely NSFW.
| lqs469 wrote:
| Even there is a Half-life 3 and it's loading forever.
| theandrewbailey wrote:
| My vapors are waved.
| dbg31415 wrote:
| Lotta memories here. Thanks.
| aargh_aargh wrote:
| Nitpick: Turbo C in DOSBox doesn't work by default. Options -
| Directories point to C:\TC\ whereas Turbo C is actually installed
| in C:\\.
| stuartd wrote:
| Oh, this takes me back a long time. I kept a game of Progress
| Quest open for far longer than I should have.
| ryanmercer wrote:
| Are you trying to get me fired? I started playing solitaire and
| was like wait, you're at work dummy.
| gwbas1c wrote:
| I'm kinda curious about the backstory. For example, the NES
| emulator is kinda cool, (even though I can't get the arrow keys
| to work,) and each game is an accomplishment in itself.
| syx wrote:
| This site is truly amazing, it's really inspiring to see how some
| people can get so creative using the old Desktop GUI metaphor.
| I'm personally curating a list [1] of all these websites and
| webapps that look like vintage desktop UIs.
|
| [1] https://github.com/syxanash/awesome-gui-websites
| megadrive wrote:
| Apologies I'm not familiar with request process on your github.
| Your list is great, I have some of those already saved as
| bookmarks. But here is another good one, Amiga workbench;
| http://www.chiptune.com/
| whywhywhywhy wrote:
| Damn I remember that one from way back, blew me away back
| then too. Functionality wise it's so faithful but with it's
| own twist on the aesthetic.
| syx wrote:
| Thanks so much for this site, it's really well crafted! For
| your information you can simply modify the file README.md and
| then open a pull request for your submission.
| amaccuish wrote:
| Ubuntu had a really cool demo for Unity on their site a while
| back (announcement [0]). It's been retired but the code is on
| Github [1]
|
| [0] https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-online-tour
|
| [1] https://github.com/canonical-webteam-
| archive/tour.ubuntu.com
| amiantos wrote:
| "Safari is teh new Internet Explorer"
|
| huh
| jiofih wrote:
| I find that quit upsetting since it's clearly _the authors
| choice_ to not support Safari and not any particular failure of
| the browser. It's my goto browser for everyday surfing, fast,
| light and with great standards support.
| ShinTakuya wrote:
| I can understand choosing not to support it. Safari is
| frustrating to web developers because you can't legally test
| on it without owning Apple hardware. Whereas Microsoft
| provides free virtual machines for testing on its browsers.
| I've done the same thing on my personal sites - I've outright
| blocked Safari with a message explaining that I won't unblock
| it until Apple provides a Safari VM.
| jachee wrote:
| Not to mention energy conscious for when you're not attached
| to the grid.
| azinman2 wrote:
| Especially since that's chrome...
| grawprog wrote:
| Ahaha this is great, the laggy emulator, the unwinnable
| minesweeper, the horrible delays caused by a system full of
| spyware and garbage. The desktop seemed maybe a little bit too
| clean though, there wasn't icons half off the screen or hidden
| entirely and it lacked the random files typically placed or saved
| there because if it's not on the desktop it doesn't exist.
| jonnycomputer wrote:
| OS in a browser, and its snappy.
| Emendo wrote:
| This reminds me of a browser based computing environment demo (I
| believe it was WebOS or MyWebTop) in the late 1990s. We have
| indeed come a long way in the last 20 years.
| alexdumitru wrote:
| This version of Minesweeper seems a bit hard to beat.
| phoe-krk wrote:
| Play around in the options to get the vanilla minesweeper.
| vitorafsr wrote:
| Disable "Troll mode" in "Options".
| ebeip90 wrote:
| Weird quirk, but it seems that MineSweeper / BrianSweeper always
| places a mine in the upper-right corner. I usually start here,
| and 30 games in a row it had a mine in that position.
| marcosdumay wrote:
| SkiFree will show a pop-up saying the program is not
| responding, and after you close it, show another one...
| TallGuyShort wrote:
| I think it's a reference to the Bad Luck Brian meme.
| Spoppys wrote:
| In the options there is a "troll mode" you can turn off, if you
| actually want to play
| AndrewOMartin wrote:
| Did you try every other space 30 times in a row?
| zackkitzmiller wrote:
| There's always a mine no matter where you click first.
| netsharc wrote:
| I put a flag on a random square as a first move, and clicked
| the square next to it, I didn't die!
| hluska wrote:
| My four year old doesn't believe that computers ever looked or
| loaded like this. Hacker News is 'farty' and 'telling stories'
| today.
|
| Edit - The four year old doesn't believe that I went to school.
| This is going to be quite the ride to daycare...
| asveikau wrote:
| It didn't look like this. Especially not in 1993. They are
| mixing a bunch of metaphors from different time periods. Mostly
| late 90s but nothing ever animated like this either.
| toyg wrote:
| Uh, not in 93, but around 98/2000 definitely it looked like
| this. Well, without the animated windows effects. (I'm
| looking at v1 only, on mobile at the moment)
| anticensor wrote:
| Windows 93 is what became Windows 95.
| roelschroeven wrote:
| Nah, I don't think so, Windows 95 was codenamed Chicago
| before it was released. I can't remember ever having seen
| the name "Windows 93" mentioned in that time.
| chungy wrote:
| You wouldn't have. It was still being called "Windows
| 4.0" until very close to its release in 1995.
| anticensor wrote:
| See The Old New Thing, by Raymond Chen:
| https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=wYrCitbs5PQC , where
| he says "Windows 95 was originally Windows 93, after
| all."
| roelschroeven wrote:
| You're right, apparently, and I was wrong. Wikipedia says
| so too:
|
| > So the development of Windows "Chicago" was started
| and, as it was planned for a late 1993 release, became
| known as Windows 93 which was also known as Windows 4.0.
| asveikau wrote:
| Source?
|
| I thought they had some design ideas in a later cancelled
| OS called Cairo, then they had a release codenamed Chicago
| which ported some ideas but dramatically scaled back, and
| that was Win95.
| fcbrooklyn wrote:
| At the time there were two branches, the win 3.1 branch,
| which was consumery, and the NT branch which was for
| servers / developers, etc. Cairo was an OS based on the
| NT branch, which was ultimately cancelled. Chicago was
| the project name for win95, which came off the 3.1
| branch. Eventually the NT/3.1 branches merged, in the
| release called XP. And yeah, there's no such thing as
| windows 93.
|
| Source: worked at msft from 92-97.
| asveikau wrote:
| But I thought the Chicago UI was also present in some
| form in cairo, and that is where some of it originated.
| Is that true?
|
| I know the history of NT based windows much better, I was
| at MS later, and in Windows.
| fcbrooklyn wrote:
| There may have been some overlap, but as I remember it
| the main thrust of Cairo wasn't really about UI. It was
| an object based filesystem, and some other fancy shit
| going on under the covers. (I was on Apps, and we never
| targetted Cairo, never got a chance to play with it
| directly, but I saw it demoed a few times, and I remember
| the UI looking more like NT/3.11. Could easily be
| misremembering that part though)
|
| EDIT: Yeah, you're right, there was some UI that made it
| to 95. From wikipedia:
|
| "The Windows 95 user interface was based on the initial
| design work that was done on the Cairo user interface."
| numpad0 wrote:
| Wow, never thought of 98/98SE as 4.x point releases, or
| Me as 5.0, or XP Home and Pro as descendant SKUs for 3.1
| and NT 3.1.
| mikepurvis wrote:
| Windows Me was still in 95/98 development line and is
| internally versioned as 4.2. 2000 and XP were 5.x, Vista
| was 6.0, Windows 7 was 6.1, Windows 8 was 6.2, and
| Windows 10 probably would have been internally 7.0 if
| they hadn't bumped the internal number forward to match.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_Windows_v
| ers...
| fcbrooklyn wrote:
| Heh, yeah, I remember when they switched to labelling
| everything by year. Those of us on the development teams
| thought that was seriously tempting fate given our track
| record of routinely shipping things a year late.
| reflectiv wrote:
| to that point, wasn't 95 actually released in '96?
|
| I was like 13 but thats what I remember...
| fcbrooklyn wrote:
| Heh, no, but it was a close call. Shipped in August of
| 95. I was working on Office "95" at the time, and we were
| seriously under the gun, for a few reasons. Firstly, it
| came down from on high that all Office apps needed to be
| ported to 32-bit, as opposed to running in Win95's 16 bit
| subsystem (this was a massive job, and introduced
| numerous bugs). And to make matters worse, this was a
| time when software was delivered in boxes, which
| contained CDRoms, or 3.25" floppies, as the customer
| desired. Win95 had completely reserved all of msft's
| manufacturing capacity for like 6-7 weeks, so in order to
| ship in 95, we had to ship like 2 months earlier than a
| normal release.
| jdofaz wrote:
| I remember people talking about Windows 97 before 1998
| rolled around.
| LocalH wrote:
| To counter the downvotes from people who are certain there
| was no "Win93", here are two internal MSFT emails referring
| to the same, in clear reference to what ended up being
| Win95.
|
| http://www.windowswiki.info/wp-
| content/uploads/codenames/PX0...
|
| http://www.windowswiki.info/wp-
| content/uploads/codenames/PX0...
| arexxbifs wrote:
| The nice thing about running Linux is that my FVWM config
| looks pretty much the same now as it did in 1995, bitmapped
| fonts and all. Can't improve on perfection.
| asveikau wrote:
| I recently started using fvwm again on one machine in some
| kind of exercise in nostalgia. Holds up surprisingly well.
| dghughes wrote:
| In the 90s I used FVWM on Red Hat v1 and it was confusing
| to me. It's like looking at your desktop through high-
| powered binoculars from two feet away.
| dspillett wrote:
| _> nothing ever animated like this either_
|
| There were add-ons that added animated tricks to the window
| manager even back in the Win3.1 days. Nothing like you get
| with more modern GPU-based compositing techniques as
| everything had to be done in software and CPUs were not all
| that fast, but you could get animated icons, windows that
| slid or faded into view, and other such.
|
| It was slow and jerky, even on what was high-end kit at the
| time, but that didn't stop people playing.
|
| Running such software was a first class way to bring on a
| blue-screen, or in "standard mode" just hang everything, of
| course!
| core-questions wrote:
| My brother could crash Windows 3.1 in Standard Mode just by
| mashing the keyboard in some particular way that I could
| never reproduce. Never took more than 10-15s of elbows on
| keys before we got a BSOD on an otherwise stable machine.
| wastholm wrote:
| A few years ago I let my young son examine a keyboard
| connected to a Linux computer with a locked screen and in
| a few seconds he showed me my first kernel panic. I never
| figured out how he did it.
| ajuc wrote:
| probably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
| sn_master wrote:
| "nothing ever animated like this"
|
| Active Desktop...
|
| I had one of those were almost every single icon on the
| desktop was animated, even "My Computer".
| Techies4Trump wrote:
| Active Desktop was the first thing I disabled whenever I
| installed Win98 on a new machine.
| asveikau wrote:
| It did not make win32 windows animate when they opened or
| closed.
|
| Edit: multiple people mentioned windowblinds. I used it too
| in the late 90s. My point stands.
| nitrogen wrote:
| There were third party addons that did some pretty crazy
| things. I don't know if animations were among them, but I
| do remember at least one that would completely retheme
| windows with different shapes and layouts, Windowblinds I
| think it was called.
| qplex wrote:
| Thanks for refreshing my memory. Those were pretty cool
| programs back then.
|
| I definetly remember Windowsblinds too (and geez, it
| seems they're still around ...).
|
| I was into LiteStep, which basically was a shell
| replacement for explorer.exe.
|
| I'm also reminded how trivially easy it was to configure
| Win9x to use a different shell: you'd just edit
| system.ini under [boot] to say shell=litestep.exe and you
| were done.
|
| Here are some screenshots:
|
| [0] https://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/wb-
| aug00g.jpg
|
| [1] http://litestep.net/snapshot1.png
| Rhinobird wrote:
| Holy shit, Litestep! That takes me back.
| Joeri wrote:
| You could do that trick even in windows 3.11. I remember
| using central point desktop for a while: 3d look, virtual
| desktops, advanced file manager and a bunch of other
| goodies in the 3.x era.
|
| http://toastytech.com/guis/cpdesk.html
|
| It was bloated and unstable though, so I was glad to
| upgrade to windows 95.
| Izkata wrote:
| > I'm also reminded how trivially easy it was to
| configure Win9x to use a different shell: you'd just edit
| system.ini under [boot] to say shell=litestep.exe and you
| were done.
|
| Fun fact, Win98 still had progman.exe installed (from win
| 3.1 and earlier). I had to switch to it in system.ini one
| day when something in explorer got corrupted and the
| normal UI wouldn't load.
| core-questions wrote:
| Litestep was fun, especially for those of us that
| couldn't get away with installing Linux on the family
| computer.
|
| I also used eFX, which was a free Windowblinds competitor
| that made it super easy to make skins, and released a ton
| of garish and ugly ones back in the day.
| sn_master wrote:
| yup! I used it until Windows XP, before Vista made it
| kind of pointless.
| sn_master wrote:
| Window Blinds did that and way more on Windows 98 and it
| was fairly popular.
|
| Many free other apps existed that did similar things too.
| laumars wrote:
| Active Desktop was just a HTML desktop (it didn't animate
| the window forms) and it part of Internet Explorer 4 so
| quiet late into the life of Windows 95. Probably around
| 1997 if I had to guess. There certainly wasn't anything
| like that on Windows 3.x which is what people would have
| been using in 1993.
| hluska wrote:
| You're right about 93, but if you go about five years later
| and keep all the animations turned on, it looked a lot like
| this. Those animations killed performance so I suspect that
| most people on here turned them off as quickly as I did, but
| this is a pretty good reproduction. It's good enough that as
| I poke around, I remember specific events from my relative
| youth...
| laumars wrote:
| Animated windows weren't a thing even in the late 90s. That
| required a compositing window manager. Linux was one of the
| first platforms to get them and Compiz wasn't even released
| until the mid 00s. Vista was the first MS operating system
| to properly support compositing (though XP -- and 2000 via
| undocumented APIs -- did support transparency effects).
|
| Animated icons have never existed aside from hacks like
| Active Desktop or active running programs in system tray /
| taskbar (again, using hacks where the icon was changed
| every second).
| int_19h wrote:
| I'm pretty sure the API that changed the window
| transparency was documented in 2K, because I distinctly
| remember reading how to do it on MSDN after first seeing
| one of those in an app.
| laumars wrote:
| It was documented in Windows XP but I think it was Vista
| that really promoted the use of that effect. Happy to be
| proved wrong about Windows 2000 but I don't recall seeing
| any documentation on MSDN back when I was playing around
| with Windows APIs.
|
| I remember I pinched the API guide for XP thinking "if it
| works in XP then it must work in Windows 2000" and the
| reason I remember that so vividly was because it didn't
| work properly. In fact it caused a kernel panic. Which
| was pretty much the only time I managed to upset Windows
| 2000 badly enough to cause a "blue screen of death".
| II2II wrote:
| There were things that people called animated windows and
| animated icons at the time, but the meaning was quite
| different from what we think about today. For example: an
| animated window was an animation effect on the frame when
| a window was opened or closed, while an animated icon
| could be showing one icon for a closed folder and another
| icon for an open folder. (These recollections are from
| 1995 era OS/2. Windows had it's own stuff going on, but I
| pretty much ignored it from the introduction of Windows
| 95 until late Windows XP.)
| laumars wrote:
| That's not what "Windows 93" (the site posted) is doing
| though. However I do take your point about the window
| borders, I had forgotten that was referred to as "window
| animations".
|
| I don't agree with your icon point though. I don't recall
| anyone calling those boolean icon states as "animated".
| anthk wrote:
| You are wrong. Xrender could do half of the effects.
| laumars wrote:
| Which bit is wrong?
|
| - Xrender wasn't released in the 90s,
|
| - isn't window manager (ie a compositing window manager
| could use Xrender for compositing (like KWin supports
| when OpenGL isn't available) but Xrender itself isn't a
| WM)
|
| - and isn't even available on Windows (which was the OS
| we were talking about)
|
| I think perhaps you might have misunderstood me? (it
| wasn't my clearest written post).
| core-questions wrote:
| Is this what Enlightenment used to achieve that?
| anthk wrote:
| Maybe. KDE menu transparencies used that. I think some
| terminals with true transparency used XRender, too.
| kstrauser wrote:
| I had an Amiga with various hacks that animated windows.
| They don't _require_ a compositing WM, although they 're
| much easier to implement with one.
| ConceptJunkie wrote:
| One of my kids asked me, when he was 4, if the negative numbers
| go on forever. To this day, almost 20 years later, that still
| blows my mind.
| ConceptJunkie wrote:
| And no, he's not a math whiz. None of my kids are. That was
| disappointing. But he's a whiz at plenty of other things.
| zaat wrote:
| Last Friday, at my parents house, I showed my four year old an
| album of me as baby, when she failed to guess who's in the
| pictures and was told it's me, her face was at first sheer
| horror, then total disbelief.
| Waterluvian wrote:
| This is my favourite part about my 3 year old. I love when he
| combines his imagination with his ability to have unwavering
| opinions on things.
|
| Recently: a conversation in which he insisted that no, that
| person isn't my dad, it's his grandpa. But I have a dad too.
| No, you're my dad. That's grandpa. etc.
|
| Also I'm apparently five years old which is very old. Mom got
| off easy. She's four.
| exikyut wrote:
| Undeniably interesting to witness how the yours/mine
| infrastructure hasn't come online yet.
| hluska wrote:
| I love this comment - it describes so much of my child and
| reminds me so much of her, right down to her confidence about
| her grandparents' ages.
|
| She's a little older so she knows some pretty big numbers.
| I'm 20, her granny and grandpa are 20 and she's either 4 or
| if she wants to be the boss she's '10 hundred'. :)
|
| But you're 5. That's really old...
| zaat wrote:
| You say that you have a dog? Yes, a villain of a one, said
| Clesippus. And he has puppies? Yes,and they are very like
| himself. And the dog is the father of them? Yes, he said, I
| certainly saw him and the mother of the puppies come
| together. And is he not yours? To be sure he is. Then he is a
| father, and he is yours; ergo, he is your father, and the
| puppies are your brothers.
| balls187 wrote:
| I took my 3 year old to a local wilderness park.
|
| After, we talked the animals, and he confidently told me that
| he "was almost eaten by a bear."
| JadeNB wrote:
| What does "telling stories" mean in this context? It actually
| sounds like a pretty good description of HN to me .... (EDIT:
| Oh, I guess it means lying.)
| pdpi wrote:
| I guess it's more the fanciful sort of talking about things
| that don't actually exist like a book does, versus the impact
| intent to deceive that goes with lying.
| hluska wrote:
| That's a perfect description. She's a kind, innocent little
| person with a big heart and a big imagination. Sometimes
| the line between imagination and fact is a little fuzzy,
| but I don't think it has the intent of a lie. They're just
| stories...
| pbhjpbhj wrote:
| Ha that line is really blurry sometimes. I told my kid
| that I fly to work, thinking he'd do that sideways glance
| nose-scrunch thing and realise it was a fictional story
| quite easily: instead he got worried that I shouldn't fly
| too high.
|
| I suggested I could tunnel like a mole instead, but
| apparently that's ridiculous!
| gowld wrote:
| It's cute when kids with their not-yet-developed brains
| to it, but when adults do it pathological lying,
| narcissism, psychopathy, or various other personality
| disorders.
| hluska wrote:
| I'm very sorry. My child has a wonderful imagination and
| loves to tell stories. Sometimes the stories happened (they
| are true) and sometimes they didn't really happen (they are
| stories). In our family, we have telling truths (these are
| things she saw and that I can ask other adults about) and
| telling stories (these are things that she didn't see with
| her eyes). We don't have a concept of lying yet, but that
| will likely come this year. For now, 'telling stories' fills
| the role of lying.
| rjsw wrote:
| Do you read books to your child ?
|
| I can remember stuff from quite a young age, I think that
| one thing I took from getting books read to me was that
| inventing worlds and setting stories in those worlds was
| just something that everyone did.
| hluska wrote:
| We read almost constantly and she has been surrounded
| with books since she was an infant. Now that she's a
| little bit older, she 'reads' and I read to her. At
| bedtime, she'll often 'read' a book with a lot of
| pictures, then I'll read it back to her and then we'll
| switch to a book with fewer pictures and I'll read it to
| her until she goes to sleep.
|
| Do you have any book recommendations? I'm always looking
| to add to the library! :)
| balls187 wrote:
| Any libraries near you?
|
| Our system (king county library system) is top notch, and
| their children section is organized with books specific
| to children development: life events, feelings, bedtime,
| concepts, etc.
|
| Every two weeks I go and pick out new books, rotating
| topics.
| JadeNB wrote:
| No need to be sorry! I wasn't being snarky; I genuinely
| didn't understand at first.
| matthewhartmans wrote:
| haha this made my day! thanks man :')
| duxup wrote:
| At 4 years old they're not able to understand how much world
| there is outside their own.
| tartoran wrote:
| Yes but their imagination knows no boundaries. Later on they
| get it but so does their imagination diminish.
| williamdclt wrote:
| I'm quite unconvinced by that. This might be true, but most
| of "kid imagination" I've seen or heard of was mashing up
| things they've had some experience with ("the dinosaur
| fights the action man", "my uncle can teleport"...). They
| don't seem to be able to think in the abstract, or even
| think outside any box (such as imagining that somebody
| could be _more_ than 10yo! What would a 1000yo, 10000yo be
| like? An adult would have much much more imagination).
|
| We find them funny and weird because they take mash up
| things we got bored or familiar with (dinosaurs, age), so
| they shake up our world a bit. But imaginative? Some adults
| are terrible at imagination, but many are amazing
| vcoelho wrote:
| Wow, I don't know how I just missed modern browsers being able to
| run Game Boy emulators.
| AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote:
| Modern browsers can emulate Windows 95, which is a
| significantly more involved feat than emulating a GB.
| dwild wrote:
| They have been able to do it for the past 15 years! I remember
| I had a bunch of emulators that were running in Applet and
| Flash to play games on a school computer using a browser. I
| guess emulators in JS are more recent, but I have no doubt a
| Game Boy one would have run a decade ago at least.
| A_No_Name_Mouse wrote:
| My favorite site for when a colleague forgot to lock his PC.
| Win93, put the browser in full screen mode and it looks like the
| PC has been haunted or hacked. Took some of them minutes to find
| out what was going on, especially because the programs are
| functional.
| sterlind wrote:
| Mad props for running completely smooth on Firefox Preview for
| Android. Drag to select, double click, window resize, everything
| just works perfectly. Why can't modern SPAs work as well?
| virgil_disgr4ce wrote:
| > Why can't modern SPAs work as well
|
| Some do
| [deleted]
| anthilemoon wrote:
| The trollbox is probably the scariest part.
| IE6 wrote:
| And extremely NSFW/NSFL when I visited.
| anonymfus wrote:
| The worst part is that it's a real chat.
| lichenwarp wrote:
| Where is Visual Basic 6 enterprise when you're 13.
| 4cao wrote:
| No matter how hard I try, can't find a way to trigger the BSoD.
| There must be a way, will keep looking.
|
| Edit: Seems it's supposed to crash on its own at random intervals
| for no apparent reason. It's really just like the original.
| 4cao wrote:
| So much to explore, and so much fun:
|
| Defrag is a game of Snake with some old Nokia (I guess)
| monophonic ringtone playing in the background.
|
| "Manifest" is a randomly-generated hilarious equation, for
| example: "utf8 + doge = web 3.0"
|
| There's a Star Wars episode all in ASCII.
|
| Inside /a/README.txt: 'Indeed, we have a "fuck the cloud"
| philosophy !'
|
| Start - Run: "There's nowhere you can run..."
|
| In "Cat Explorer" (browser) there is a bookmark under
| "INTERWEBZ" for "Mark Zuckerberg's homepage" that appears to be
| genuinely his, back when he was 15 years old:
| https://web.archive.org/web/20021104225654/http://www.angelf...
|
| In some places it gets very modern though:
|
| What If: "What if I told you / You can eat without posting it
| on Instagram"
|
| In any case, no matter what you do, don't start Hydra.exe.
|
| (And I still couldn't get the BSoD.)
| gmueckl wrote:
| There is even more. There is a selection of old Amiga demos
| that run in an emulator! Whoever made this stuff is a genius
| for putting this sprawling thing together.
| zaat wrote:
| >There's a Star Wars episode all in ASCII.
|
| You can have it in your terminal too:
|
| telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
| VRay wrote:
| Man, it was mind-blowing back in the day to see a video
| streaming from a server right to your local machine in real
| time
| mrighele wrote:
| I clicked Corglitch and my Firefox became completely
| unresponsive. Somewhat close, I would say.
| 4cao wrote:
| I managed to do that too (browser freezing until I closed the
| tab, also in Firefox) but there's supposed to be a proper
| BSoD. I found a screenshot of it:
|
| https://venturebeat.com/wp-
| content/uploads/2015/03/windows_9...
|
| (It's a stylized "Error 404: The page is missing or was never
| written. You can see if it becomes available again.")
| shantara wrote:
| Found it! Open "/c/files/documents/keynotes/opening/" file
| and keep clicking on the next button (the triangle) until
| you reach the last page with "Windows 93. Are you ready?"
| text. Click on "Are you ready?"
| have_faith wrote:
| Progress Quest is a surprisingly engaging game
| tartoran wrote:
| This is quite impressive, I played with PukeData and it works
| quite well. And the maze3d in ascii is quite brilliant too though
| I find it quite hard, everything looks the same. And the Halflife
| 3 is mocking me, it appears to be loading but keeps on
| initializing silly stuff like VR Pizza, etc..
| tartoran wrote:
| Oh and don't click Hydra.exe. It killed my session:)
| dfee wrote:
| Open "Solitude" click "Game" -> "Yeah" and follow the
| instructions. You won't be disappointed.
|
| > click and drag anywhere on the game to see the fun, thanks to
| mr doob
| Atheb wrote:
| So it seems to be able to open itself quite well:
| https://imgur.com/a/dkEYrFW
| splatcollision wrote:
| This is so superbad
| jasoneckert wrote:
| This website has totally destroyed my productivity for the day.
| Thanks for that! :D
| SirLotsaLocks wrote:
| Is there a current gen operating system that maintains this
| appearence style?
| pedrogpimenta wrote:
| Well, several Desktop managers for Linux have old-school
| Windows-like themes. For example:
| https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95
| DerWOK wrote:
| Most fun was: launching Brain Sweeper! ROFL!!1!
| unnouinceput wrote:
| Half-Life 3....confirmed
|
| That one cracked me and my boy. Awesome.
| 72deluxe wrote:
| I kind of miss how speedy and usable a desktop like this was. I
| remember running Windows 95 on 64MB RAM (even did it on 16MB,
| barely) on a 486 DX2 66MHz (it was something someone else had
| thrown out, in the era of Pentium IIs, I was poor).
|
| And then installing RedHat 6.0 from a magazine cover CD and using
| FVWM and wondering how I could make my feeble poor machine look
| like the glorious KDE2 and GNOME desktops gracing the pages of
| said magazine.
|
| I miss KDE2's look TBH.
| that_jojo wrote:
| +1 for KDE2 love
| nitrogen wrote:
| Long after I had switched to Linux, I helped my grandmother
| with Windows 95 on a 486 DX4 at 100MHz. I had completely
| forgotten how snappy a UI could be on modest hardware.
|
| Also KDE2 was indeed perfect. They had built all the features
| one needs in a desktop, and ever since everything has been half
| baked.
| rconti wrote:
| 64MB?? _wow_. My 486 /33 had 4MB. I eventually was able to
| upgrade to 16MB (I think it cost like $400 though), and my
| linux kernel compile times went down from 8 hours to 12
| minutes. That was the day I _truly_ learned how much swapping
| affected performance.
| mongol wrote:
| My 386 PS/2 Model 70 had 2 MB and ran 16 MHz. I copied
| Windows 3.0 from a school computer, using the arj file
| compressor, to a bunch of diskettes and then to this
| computer. Started no problem when I typed "win" on the DOS
| prompt.
| anthk wrote:
| Well, with a bit of effort you could make FVWM look like this:
|
| http://ironphoenix.org/fvwm/configs/fvwm-desktop/fvwm-deskto...
|
| Best of two words, and it could run fast enough even under a
| 486.
| smukherjee19 wrote:
| I found the Castle Gafa game... interesting, to say the least.
| Yhippa wrote:
| Doom works!
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