[HN Gopher] Coronavirus Lockdown [in Wuhan] Is a 'Living Hell'
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       Coronavirus Lockdown [in Wuhan] Is a 'Living Hell'
        
       Author : brundolf
       Score  : 61 points
       Date   : 2020-03-03 21:47 UTC (1 hours ago)
        
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       | brundolf wrote:
       | Despite the title, the heart of the article is really about a
       | Wuhan man's disenchantment with his authoritarian government, by
       | way of the Coronavirus crisis
        
         | whatshisface wrote:
         | It is not off the mark, if the CCP had been better about seeing
         | the truth they could have eliminated the virus when only 100
         | people had it. Instead they suppressed news of it while doing
         | nothing, all while the virus ran around getting the better of
         | them. It is too bad for the CCP that the Chinese people are not
         | the only things in China to control!
        
           | azurezyq wrote:
           | And now CDC is doing the exact same thing in US by not
           | testing extensively, even though they are aware of community
           | spreads. My friends in Seattle area are in great fear.
        
             | whatshisface wrote:
             | This is certainly a wakeup call for anyone who thinks that
             | the US federal bureaucracy is immune to dumb authoritarian
             | tactics. Hopefully this will put a damper on all of those
             | armchair dictators who say things like, "the null policy is
             | still a policy and deserves just as much skepticism." If
             | hospitals had not been prevented by the FDA from using
             | their own machines to run tests, the CDC testing shortage
             | would not have mattered.
        
             | williw wrote:
             | CDC botched the first test kits. There was no way to test
             | anyway. Fortunately, FDA approved state developed test
             | kits.
        
               | davidw wrote:
               | It still seems like they're way behind in testing
               | compared to, say, Italy, which for a while at least was
               | testing sick people and everyone they had come into
               | contact with.
        
           | other_herbert wrote:
           | There's also the potluck dinner with what sounds like all of
           | the city...
           | 
           | https://www.ibtimes.sg/focus-wuhan-potluck-dinner-cpc-
           | fires-...
           | 
           | (midway down the article)
           | 
           | I think we may not have even heard about the virus if not for
           | this
           | 
           | Edit: relevant portion:
           | 
           | Ill-advised potluck dinner helped spread the virus
           | 
           | Another major perceived lapse of the Wuhan party authorities
           | was their decision to let a large public feast go ahead in
           | January despite the fact that there were clear signs that an
           | epidemic was gathering pace. The local government had
           | controversially allowed nearly 40,000 families to gather and
           | share food as part of the Chinese New Year festival even as
           | deaths from the virus were increasing.
           | 
           | It later turned out that at least 10 cases of coronavirus
           | infection were reported from among the participants of the
           | feast on January 18, raising fears that the event must have
           | accelerated the spread of the infection in Wuhan.
        
           | bakuninsbart wrote:
           | Honest question though: Which country would handle it better?
           | 
           | A commenter below mentioned the US, but the reaction here in
           | Germany has also been ridiculously slow and very lacking in
           | both the political department as well as healthcare
           | officials.
           | 
           | An overwhelming majority of NHS medics doesn't think the UK
           | is prepared either. [https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020
           | /mar/02/coronavirus-...)
           | 
           | Our lower population densities and much higher hygene
           | standards make it less likely for a breakout to start here,
           | but our dealing with a pandemic is at least as frighteningly
           | incompetent as the chinese response.
        
         | the-pigeon wrote:
         | It just reads like an anti-Chinese propaganda piece.
         | 
         | Don't get me wrong, I think a lot of Chinese people are very
         | disenfranchised by their government. But a lot of them love it
         | too. But western media always focuses on those that dislike it.
         | Which is not a balanced perspective of their people.
        
         | borkt wrote:
         | Yeah, what is the point of a quarantine if they give you a
         | warning and allow you to shop and leave the city? By very
         | nature of his description it has worked as hoped.
        
       | mosseater wrote:
       | Of course it's hard living in Wuhan during this
       | outbreak/pandemic. There are sacrifices to be made and they are
       | the Wuhan residents. But this doesn't make China an evil
       | authoritarian government mishandling the situation. China is
       | doing the best it can to stop this outbreak where it stands. Yes
       | that means quarantining the hot spot. Yes that means taking over
       | dorms for room to quarantine people. Yes that means medical care
       | at hospitals will be stretched extremely thin.
       | 
       | But what is the alternative? Letting things run rampant because
       | you didn't want to impose upon peoples human rights? The greater
       | good of the whole population means more than the convenience of
       | the Wuhan people. I just hope America falls in line.
       | 
       | And yes, they didn't act immediately when they had patients in
       | December. That could have been handled better. Hindsight is
       | 20/20. But their mindset, about not wanting to start an
       | unwarranted panic, about wanting to investigate things fully, is
       | understandable.
        
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