[HN Gopher] iOS now requires Sign On with Apple alongside other ...
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       iOS now requires Sign On with Apple alongside other auth providers
        
       Author : catchmeifyoucan
       Score  : 34 points
       Date   : 2020-03-07 19:20 UTC (3 hours ago)
        
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       | onyva wrote:
       | That's great news. I never use apps that force me to login with
       | either Google Facebook or twitter. There should always be an
       | option to login with an email address and apples logging with
       | disposable non personal email is really easy and useful.
        
         | isofivepatoi wrote:
         | Yes. Given the other article on the front page regarding the
         | guy who got dragged in by the dystopian drag net, we need
         | companies who don't rely on keeping our information in PII form
         | in order to make money or hold their stock value.
         | 
         | This should be cheered by all.
        
       | steve_taylor wrote:
       | Does it apply to social games that optionally allow users to sign
       | in with Facebook to compare their progress with that of their
       | friends? Sign in with Apple would seem utterly useless for this
       | very common use case.
        
         | VoxPelli wrote:
         | For that Apple already has Game Center, and Sign In with Apple
         | is no social network, so it by itself could not replace
         | anything like that
        
       | jcrites wrote:
       | Pretty sure this was announced at the same time as Sign On with
       | Apple originally, no?
       | 
       | According to the Wayback Machine, the same terms were present as
       | early as October 1st 2019 (maybe earlier; didn't look):
       | 
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20191001161920/https://developer...
        
         | satysin wrote:
         | When Sign in with Apple was announced it was stated it wouldn't
         | be a requirement until April 2020.
         | 
         | As per https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=09122019b
        
         | jannotti wrote:
         | They also used to say you needed to do this if you
         | "exclusively" used third party sign on. Now it's if you use
         | third party sign on at all.
        
       | bruceb wrote:
       | So all iOS apps must now offer Apple sign-in?? I am getting this
       | right, this seems like it would trigger some anti trust action?
        
         | KukicAdnan wrote:
         | Only if they offer other social login options like Facebook and
         | Twitter for example. If the app doesn't support oAuth, then
         | there's no requirement to have sign in with apple.
        
           | bruceb wrote:
           | Still seems a bit crazy. Dictating that apps have to have
           | Apple login.
           | 
           | Seems no real justification other than Apple can use its
           | power.
        
             | vbezhenar wrote:
             | Apple store, apple rules.
        
             | tehbeard wrote:
             | It seems like it would be a safer option for customers
             | privacy wise Vs Facebook login. That said, uncomfortable
             | questions have to be to asked if sign on with apple can be
             | blocked to, by proxy, block/remove an app from the store.
        
         | fnordsensei wrote:
         | Only if the app offers other third-party sign in options. A
         | service that relies only on itself for authentication doesn't
         | need to provide it.
        
       | k-ian wrote:
       | Sign in with Apple is not required if:
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       | - Your app exclusively uses your company's own account setup and
       | sign-in systems.
       | 
       | - Your app is an education, enterprise, or business app that
       | requires the user to sign in with an existing education or
       | enterprise account.
       | 
       | - Your app uses a government or industry-backed citizen
       | identification system or electronic ID to authenticate users.
       | 
       | - Your app is a client for a specific third-party service and
       | users are required to sign in to their mail, social media, or
       | other third-party account directly to access their content.
        
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