[HN Gopher] Gates foundation program will issue home testing kit...
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Gates foundation program will issue home testing kits for Covid 19
in seattle
Author : ajaviaad
Score : 79 points
Date : 2020-03-08 22:09 UTC (50 minutes ago)
(HTM) web link (techcrunch.com)
(TXT) w3m dump (techcrunch.com)
| extralegos wrote:
| Feudalism
| tomcam wrote:
| Ah, a little explanation would help
| extralegos wrote:
| Feudalism is an pre-industrial, primarily agrarian system of
| socioeconomic relations in which peasants farm land
| controlled by nobility in exchange for military protections.
|
| In Feudalism, the single incentive for the nobility to
| protect the peasant is the exchange value of the product of
| the peasant's labor. Feudalism is best known for it's lack of
| democratic relations.
| natalyarostova wrote:
| Tech feudalism sounds pretty good about now. I trust bill gates
| to manage this far more than I trust our government, which so
| far has been worthless.
| tanto wrote:
| I don't get why the people elect presidents and parties whom
| interestst clear don't align with theirs. They elect people
| which promise them they will basically destroy governmental
| institutions and THAN complain the the government doesn't
| work. That's like ordering poisoned food and than complaining
| about the cook...
| nostromo wrote:
| *then
|
| Quite often people don't vote for their own self-interest
| because they believe in a greater good or a larger
| principle. This is a good thing.
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| excerionsforte wrote:
| Low cost home testing kits can go beyond SARS-COV2 and track
| other diseases all from the safety of your home. Why go to the
| hospital where you could possibly be infected by other people
| with infectious diseases or infect the people around you.
|
| Personally, if it is low cost enough that I don't need to use
| health insurance then I am all for it. Health insurance is good
| enough until surprise they don't want to cover you or you get
| surprise bills in the mail from the hospital.
|
| Gates Foundation is absolutely forward thinking. I like it a lot.
| aplummer wrote:
| > Health insurance is good enough until surprise they don't
| want to cover you or you get surprise bills in the mail from
| the hospital.
|
| Constantly amazed this can be a thing in a first world country.
| Can this actually happen?
| inferiorhuman wrote:
| Yes
| fortran77 wrote:
| Bill Gates is a great man.
| generalpass wrote:
| Spending his money to protect himself from contracting illness.
|
| And the objectivists rejoiced.
| 29athrowaway wrote:
| Sure. But foundations and philantropy also happen to be great
| for tax purposes.
| glofish wrote:
| If anything sets a bad precedent, citizens starting testing
| themselves and each other, what could possibly go wrong
| (sarcasm)...
|
| Should we test for flu, cold as well? All other diseases? Should
| you only be allowed to be somewhere if you tested yourself within
| the last N hours ... etc .. because that is the next step,
| looking at each other with suspicion.
|
| When did you last test yourself? Did you not test yourself? Why
| not? What are you hiding? What kind of citizen are you? Get back
| there and start testing yourself.
|
| Are you going to test yourself every day? When you sneeze? In the
| morning, in the evening?
|
| Stop living in fear. Nothing will happen to you.
| patmorgan23 wrote:
| This is FUD. Comprehensive testing and isolation is the only
| thing that can contain a pandemic. There's so little data
| available every additional point is valuable.
| glofish wrote:
| testing should not be done Random Joe at home!
|
| there is tons of data, it helps no one when unqualified
| people add to the noise,
|
| you think it helps you, but the tragedy that it only makes
| things worse
| legionof7 wrote:
| If I could test myself continuously, I would. Why would you
| not?
| glofish wrote:
| because it never works like that, never that simple, there
| are always bigger costs
|
| next thing you know you are not allowed on a bus if you
| haven't tested yourself today
| SubiculumCode wrote:
| I am scheduled to give a talk at large science conference in
| Seattle this May. I have a feeling its going to get canceled
| though. :/
| fancyfredbot wrote:
| This is very admirable of Bill, but it seems odd that the world's
| biggest economy is reliant on hand-outs to keep its citizens
| healthy.
| bshoemaker wrote:
| Our government is led by idiots, this is the result
| appleflaxen wrote:
| the irony is that if these are not already FDA-approved devices,
| then selling them (and even giving them, I think) to consumers
| will be illegal.
|
| it seems clear that the regulations would be harming the public
| interest and should not be enforced, but you could imagine a
| scenario where there was a politician with a political grudge
| against a liberal city like Seattle.
| tomcam wrote:
| Not anymore. That restriction has been removed [PDF link]:
|
| https://www.fda.gov/media/135659/download
| spectramax wrote:
| This is great news. We can learn from this pandemic that
| during Public Emergencies, humanity needs to come together
| and defeat our threat - democracies are thought of as a
| "giant ship" that's impossible to move during emergencies and
| cannot compete with authoritarian regimes such as China where
| a drone escorts you back to your own house; this kind of
| exclusionary and temporary exceptions backed by scientific
| consensus and truth (which is often clouded by the fog of
| authoritarian stronghold on censorship), we can be as nimble
| and come out more educated than ever.
|
| Emergency powers in the western countries democracies (North
| America and Europe) are an important aspect of governance and
| should be routined examined for effectiveness, efficiency and
| combating the threat during the most dire times. Coronavirus
| is not an existential threat but as a thought exercise we can
| imagine one that has a serious chance of killing 50% of the
| earth population. Or some serious evil on planet is
| threatening human existence on earth - incoming asteriod or
| terrorist organization with AI capabilities. I sound like an
| alarmist, I know, but the point of this thought exercise is
| not to induce panic but build a better governance system that
| can protect the public without giving up civil liberties.
| bawolff wrote:
| Not really that clear. Im sure the gates foundation is pretty
| legit, but if scammers started selling home testing kits that
| didn't work that could definitely be a threat to the public
| interest.
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