[HN Gopher] AutoML-Zero: Evolving Machine Learning Algorithms fr...
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       AutoML-Zero: Evolving Machine Learning Algorithms from Scratch
        
       Author : lainon
       Score  : 69 points
       Date   : 2020-03-10 20:08 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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 (TXT) w3m dump (github.com)
        
       | joe_the_user wrote:
       | _AutoML-Zero aims to automatically discover computer programs
       | that can solve machine learning tasks, starting from empty or
       | random programs and using only basic math operations._
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       | If this system is not using human bias, who is it choosing what
       | good program is? Surely, human labeling data involves humans
       | adding their bias to the data?
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       | It seems like AlphaGoZero was able to do just end-to-end ML
       | because it was able to use a very clear and "objective" standard,
       | whether a program wins or loses at the game of Go.
       | 
       | Would this approach only deal with similarly unambiguous
       | problems?
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       | Edit: also, AlphaGoZero was one of the most ML ever created (at
       | least at the time of its creation). How much computing resources
       | would this require for more fully general learning? Will there be
       | a limit to such an approach?
        
         | darawk wrote:
         | > It seems like AlphaGoZero was able to do just end-to-end ML
         | because it was able to use a very clear and "objective"
         | standard, whether a program wins or loses at the game of Go.
         | 
         | Just a fun note: winning or losing at the game of Go is
         | actually surprisingly subjective:
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         | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(game)#Scoring_rules
        
       | jxcole wrote:
       | Interesting, but how does it perform on standard benchmarks like
       | image net and MNIST?
        
         | p1esk wrote:
         | They have some cifar10 results in the paper, but only very
         | small networks.
        
       | lokimedes wrote:
       | Reminds me of https://www.nutonian.com/products/eureqa/ which I
       | used quite productively to model multivariate distributions from
       | data back in the 2000's. Funny how everything stays the same, but
       | with a new set of players on the bandwagon.
        
       | TaylorAlexander wrote:
       | Shouldn't this link directly to the Readme?
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       | https://github.com/google-research/google-research/blob/mast...
        
       | manually wrote:
       | Next:
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       | - Autosuggest database tables to use
       | 
       | - Automatically reserve parallel computing resources
       | 
       | - Autodetect data health issues and auto fix them
       | 
       | - Autodetect concept drift and auto fix it
       | 
       | - Auto engineer features and interactions
       | 
       | - Autodetect leakage and fix it
       | 
       | - Autodetect unfairness and auto fix it
       | 
       | - Autocreate more weakly-labelled training data
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       | - Autocreate descriptive statistics and model eval stats
       | 
       | - Autocreate monitoring
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       | - Autocreate regulations reports
       | 
       | - Autocreate a data infra pipeline
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       | - Autocreate a prediction serving endpoint
       | 
       | - Auto setup a meeting with relevant stakeholders on Google
       | Calendar
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       | - Auto deploy on Google Cloud
       | 
       | - Automatically buy carbon offset
       | 
       | - Auto fire your in-house data scientists
        
         | neximo64 wrote:
         | Would be funny but most of those things are already on AutoML
         | Tables, including the carbon offset
         | 
         | https://cloud.google.com/automl-tables
        
         | otagekki wrote:
         | Poor data scientists, now whose heads get cut when things go
         | wrong and companies lose billions?
        
           | manually wrote:
           | In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to
           | him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
           | 
           | "What are you doing?", asked Minsky.
           | 
           | "I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-
           | Toe" Sussman replied.
           | 
           | "Why is the net wired randomly?", asked Minsky.
           | 
           | "I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play",
           | Sussman said.
           | 
           | Minsky then shut his eyes.
           | 
           | "Why do you close your eyes?", Sussman asked his teacher.
           | 
           | "So that the room will be empty."
           | 
           | At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.
        
         | xiaodai wrote:
         | Autodetect data health issues and auto fix them
         | 
         | Funy you say that cos my company is actually developing
         | something along those lines
        
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