[HN Gopher] Man's 'experiments' with explosives were lawful, cou...
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Man's 'experiments' with explosives were lawful, court rules
Author : Tomte
Score : 31 points
Date : 2020-03-11 19:36 UTC (3 hours ago)
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| pjc50 wrote:
| For context, the UK has suffered a number of terrorist bombings
| over the years; explosives are controlled substances, and anyone
| making them without a license _will_ have the terrorism book
| thrown at them. Not really much point in spending two decades in
| Afghanistan "fighting terrorism" if you're going to let people
| brew TATP in their bathtubs like the 7/7 bombers.
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_July_2005_London_bombings
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Bishopsgate_bombing
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_hotel_bombing : very
| nearly assasinated most of the government!
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| https://www.cbc.ca/archives/the-day-an-ira-bomb-claimed-the-... :
| Queen's cousin murdered by bomb
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| And previously https://www.irishtimes.com/news/the-devastating-
| effects-of-a...
| lowdose wrote:
| The government should have offered him a job instead of treating
| him as a criminal, especially considering his autism.
| chmod775 wrote:
| > The government should have offered him a job
|
| As what exactly?
| oh_sigh wrote:
| Bomb disposal technician?
| tathougies wrote:
| I mean, you really ought to be able to experiment with explosives
| in a free country, as long as you're not hurting anyone /
| planning to hurt anyone. It's obviously legal when companies in
| the industry do it. Why shouldn't it be for private citizens.
| RareSoft wrote:
| I was under the impression that like firearms in the UK you
| need to have special licenses to use explosives that people can
| apply for https://www.hse.gov.uk/explosives/licensing/how-to-
| apply.htm
| anfilt wrote:
| I hate how chemistry can land people in legal hot water due to
| overzealous government policies. While this example is not in the
| UK. It's illegal to own certain glassware without a permit in
| Texas for instance. The glassware is considered a drug precursor,
| like freaking glassware. Oh also federally the DEA treats
| Phosphorus as a type 1 precursor to meth. That's a freaking
| element! An element is illegal/regulated like that is just insane
| to me.
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| Anyways a low amount of explosives with no intent to hurt anyone
| should not be a problem. Even a large amount in a remote area
| that is away from other people and property should be fine.
| 3pt14159 wrote:
| In D&D there is a certain type of spell called Power Word Kill
| which works slightly differently based on the version of D&D
| you're playing with, but the effect is that it essentially
| kills a single individual with a single word.
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| I'm not saying phosphorus should be legal or illegal, but at
| some point "it's just a packet I sent on the internet" or "it's
| just a PDF I sent to someone overseas" or "it's just an
| element" misses the point. In most democratic countries there
| are procedures for getting what you need if you what you're
| doing is fundamentally good. Nuclear power plants get uranium.
| Science researchers get viruses. Anti-virus vendors get
| malware. A certain degree of limiting the power of individual
| actors is wise.
| [deleted]
| tines wrote:
| Isn't U-235 an element?
| NikolaeVarius wrote:
| It's an isotope of Uranium. It's restricted but I'm pretty
| sure its not illegal to own a small amount of it.
| cwkoss wrote:
| Not illegal to own uranium ore - I think the restrictions
| are only on the refined product
| Causality1 wrote:
| 22 months in jail for making "damp firework" level explosives.
| What a travesty.
| ty7yt wrote:
| good for him. he only has one life and he aint spending it in a
| sandwich factory. hes exploring some of the most exciting
| chemistry this world has. and its a shame we live in a place
| where people are terrified and manipulated by tv into thinking
| anyone who shows interest in these things must be placed in a
| small room for a long time. 300 gears ago governments would be
| giving him money and patting him on the back. some people we not
| not born for this time. a time of sol destroying mortgages,
| overbearing laws, 1000's of unwritten rules and a general utter
| boring existence unless you were born into wealth.
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