[HN Gopher] Lisp: Good News, Bad News, How to Win Big (1991)
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Lisp: Good News, Bad News, How to Win Big (1991)
Author : simonpure
Score : 52 points
Date : 2020-03-15 19:00 UTC (3 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (www.dreamsongs.com)
| DonHopkins wrote:
| It's Battle of the Manifestos day on HN! Compare and contrast
| this with "Ted Kaczynski's Manifesto [pdf]":
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| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22585258
| ohithereyou wrote:
| Shitposting and its consequences have been a disaster for
| Intenet discourse.
| kragen wrote:
| Your point would be more plausible if you weren't responding
| to someone who's been "shitposting" on the internet (your
| "Intenet") for over 30 years and whose "shitposting" has been
| highly educational for generations of people, including me --
| especially HCI researchers, of course.
| dang wrote:
| A bit from 2011: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2628170
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| There's more on the Worse Is Better side:
| https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
| DonHopkins wrote:
| http://gotocon.com/berlin-2013/speaker/Richard+P.+Gabriel
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| Biography: Richard P. Gabriel
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| Dr Richard P. "Dick" Gabriel is a leader in the Lisp/OOP
| community, known for his book "Innovation Happens Elsewhere", his
| essay "Lisp: Good News, Bad News, How to Win Big", and the
| "Gabriel" Lisp benchmarks that became a standard way of
| benchmarking Lisp implementations. Dr Gabriel is also the
| recipient of the recipient of Association for Computing
| Machinery's 1998 Fellows Award, and the 2004 Allen Newell Award.
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| With a Ph.D. in Computer Science from Stanford University in
| 1981, and an MFA in Poetry from Warren Wilson College in 1998, Dr
| Gabriel was described in the Alan Newell Award as stretching "the
| imagination of computer scientists with ideas and innovations
| from other fields" and he combines these into presentations to
| technology audiences that he describes as being "audacious set-
| piece guerilla performances".
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| Dick has been a researcher at Stanford University, company
| president and Chief Technical Officer at Lucid, Inc., vice
| president of development at ParcPlace-Digitalk, a management
| consultant for several startups and Sun Microsystems, and
| Consulting Professor of Computer Science at Stanford University.
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| Presentation: I Throw Itching Powder at Tulips
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| http://gotocon.com/berlin-2013/presentation/I%20Throw%20Itch...
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| http://gotocon.com/dl/goto-berlin-2013/slides/RichardP.Gabri...
| mark_l_watson wrote:
| Yes indeed, I really like this almost twenty year old article. It
| seems like I re-read it every several years.
|
| Lisp is in even better shape now than twenty years ago:
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| Application delivery is a solved problem. On the commercial side
| LispWorks and Franz have portable UI frameworks and application
| delivery mechanisms that are excellent.
|
| On the open source side, SBCL and Clozure are excellent, with
| different strength. Both have robust application deployment
| capabilities.
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| In the non-Common Lisp world, Racket (Scheme) just keeps getting
| better, and also has a good application delivery mechanism and
| portable UI that looks great in macOS and not so good on Linux.
| DonHopkins wrote:
| https://blog.acolyer.org/2016/09/15/the-rise-of-worse-is-bet...
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| In 2000 an OOPSLA panel was convened to debate the question of
| whether worse was still better. Gabriel wrote a position paper
| arguing for the-right-thing. A month later, he wrote a second
| position paper arguing for worse-is-better!
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| https://www.dreamsongs.com/Files/WorseIsBetterPositionPaper....
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| https://www.dreamsongs.com/Files/ProWorseIsBetterPosition.pd...
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