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       Show HN: To fight quarantine boredom I build a site to watch movies
       with friends
        
       Author : l1am0
       Score  : 138 points
       Date   : 2020-03-25 18:21 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (bingetogether.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (bingetogether.com)
        
       | mceoin wrote:
       | I've been waiting for this product. Nice work.
        
       | derwiki wrote:
       | Page <title> says "Bing Together"
        
         | SwiftyBug wrote:
         | We gotta stop the Google monopoly, right?
        
           | l1am0 wrote:
           | Love that one. Bing without e is fixed. Miss-typed it once
           | and than copy pasted it too often.
        
       | Reedx wrote:
       | Anyone remember turntable.fm?
       | 
       | I know a bunch of replacements popped up, but nothing seemed to
       | capture the same kind of magic...
        
         | crisnoble wrote:
         | https://plug.dj/
        
         | aantix wrote:
         | After turntable.fm closed they briefly did Turntable Live.
         | 
         | Which was the coolest online concert experience I ever had.
         | 
         | I recorded a session. But sadly, not the system audio. But you
         | can get a feel for the experience.
         | 
         | https://youtu.be/08SvwB9S53U
        
         | lintroller wrote:
         | jqbx.fm uses only Spotify but has web, mac, android, and ios
         | apps to sync Spotify listening.
        
         | MivLives wrote:
         | Yes, I actually helped make a clone of it for my final college
         | project.
         | 
         | Since then the cocnept has sort of died. I'm a little surprised
         | it's not something that Spotify did more with. I know they have
         | a colistening feature but I have yet to have anyone want to
         | attempt that. As far as I can tell you need to link up by
         | Facebook to even attempt that.
        
       | text_exch wrote:
       | For those who prefer text-based entertainment, I run an email
       | newsletter called Thinking About Things [1], which sends out a
       | link to an interesting article every day. It's aimed at curious
       | people who don't have a lot of time to read - each email has an
       | extended quote from the article so that you can see if it
       | interests you. It's gotten very good reviews from readers.
       | 
       | [1] https://www.thinking-about-things.com/
        
         | allpratik wrote:
         | That's really interesting. Was indeed in a need of one since a
         | long time.
         | 
         | Already subscribed now and excited to review few emails and
         | their content. Thank you for starting and maintaining something
         | like this.
        
         | manigandham wrote:
         | I recommend adding an archive of the past emails so I can
         | review the content before signing up. You also get web visitors
         | that way, people that would rather read websites or via RSS.
        
       | awinder wrote:
       | This is on my reading / testing list earlier today:
       | https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/25/21191604/watch-movies-fri...
       | 
       | Will have to add this to the list!
        
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       | Avamander wrote:
       | What differentiates this and cytube? (https://cytu.be)
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | BingeTogether.com is legal ;)
        
       | kazinator wrote:
       | > _To fight quarantine boredom I build a site to watch movies
       | with friends._
       | 
       | I would call it "CoVid: watch videos together, remotely."
        
         | leafmeal wrote:
         | Or even Covid.io (though that domain seems to be taken).
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | Hope folks will use it after corona as well, so no corona pun
         | name for it xD
        
           | black_puppydog wrote:
           | CoBinge?
        
         | willio58 wrote:
         | Almost as perfect as it is morbid.
        
           | choward wrote:
           | The auction site for caskets?
        
             | messe wrote:
             | CoVidBid?
        
           | Uehreka wrote:
           | Right now I see a lot of folks making light of Covid-19 by
           | coming up with silly pun-based names for sites, groups, etc.
           | and I totally understand why: Many of us (especially in tech,
           | where layoffs have been less bad than other sectors)
           | currently associate this event with staying indoors, being
           | kinda bored, trying to find things to do to pass the time.
           | People are intellectual aware that there's a deadly virus out
           | there, but haven't really emotionally reckoned with it.
           | 
           | But I feel pretty confident that there's going to be a
           | whiplash change in public perception over the next month, as
           | a large percentage of the population comes to know Covid-19
           | as the thing that killed friends or members of their
           | families.
           | 
           | So if you (the reader, this isn't necessarily aimed at GP)
           | are considering naming something after Covid-19,
           | Corona(virus) or the word "pandemic": I understand where
           | you're coming from, but I'd advise you to think twice. You
           | really don't want your brand to remind someone of the month
           | they spent tending to a loved one with fluid in their lungs.
        
             | whatshisface wrote:
             | There are plenty of Hitler jokes out there, and a _ton_ of
             | hurricane jokes for every hurricane that blows through the
             | US. Cancer patients are sometimes sardonic about their
             | condition. I really don 't think a death toll of 100,000 is
             | enough to stop people from using gallows humor to cope. In
             | fact, the higher the death toll, the more gallows humor you
             | are likely to see.
             | 
             | Further evidence: Coronavirus jokes have not become taboo
             | in China.
        
               | darawk wrote:
               | While that's true, very few successful products are
               | Hitler puns.
        
               | TomMarius wrote:
               | Yet. People will want to move on though.
        
       | dmtroyer wrote:
       | this is not intuitive.
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | What do you dislike about the interface? How can I improve it?
         | Thanks for your help.
        
           | dmtroyer wrote:
           | I'm just confused. How is syncing supposed to work?
           | 
           | 1. I start a "watch party" 2. I give the link to friends. 3.
           | They click the button "Open the movie and check for
           | autostart." 4. The video opens. At the beginning. Not where
           | the other people are at.
           | 
           | What is "Autostart"? You mention to "Open the movie directly
           | and ask in the voice chat what time you should jump to". How
           | is this different than just sharing the link to the video and
           | pressing play at the same time or having them skip ahead. I
           | don't understand.
        
             | l1am0 wrote:
             | Ah okay. So that button is to dominant Open the movie and
             | check for autostart." is just the preperation to check if
             | the video starts correctly e.g. if in firefox autoplay is
             | allowed.
             | 
             | The actually watch party starts when the countdown hits
             | zero, by redirecting everyone in the same moment to the
             | video.
             | 
             | "Open the movie directly and ask in the voice chat what
             | time you should jump to" is when you missed the start.
             | 
             | Syncing works via starting everyone at the same time in the
             | beginning of the movie
        
       | aldoushuxley001 wrote:
       | does anyone know of a good website to do this but for music?
       | Ideally I'd love to be able to create room where buddies can
       | join, we can chat and take turns suggesting songs to play that we
       | all listen to. I would literally pay money for that.
        
         | fuklief wrote:
         | If you pay for spotify, https://www.jqbx.fm/ can do that.
        
         | fonosip wrote:
         | https://ba.net/screen-share-party
        
         | fenwick67 wrote:
         | MPD can handle the streaming part for you but you have to have
         | access to all the files.
         | 
         | https://musicpd.org/
        
         | lprubin wrote:
         | This site does that for Youtube: https://plug.dj/
        
         | cameronbrown wrote:
         | watch2gether.com does YouTube, Vimeo, Dailymotion and
         | SoundCloud
        
         | a_t48 wrote:
         | https://cytu.be/ - works with YT, SoundCloud, and some others.
        
           | Avamander wrote:
           | And also supports videos from various platforms and self-
           | hosted content.
        
       | leowoo91 wrote:
       | I've entered a random youtube url, "open movie" test click worked
       | fine but when the counter hit, it went to netflix... (Safari)
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | Oh wow. That was propably the dumbest bug I ever produced.
         | Still hat my testing (netflix) url hardcoded in the countdown
         | javascript.
         | 
         | Works now. Thanks for reporting.
        
       | Joof wrote:
       | I've wanted this for so many years.
        
       | errantspark wrote:
       | My friends and I do this through Discord. One person shares their
       | screen playing netflix/disney/whatever and then everyone just
       | hangs out in voice and watches together. It's a really seamless
       | experience and the re-encoding is usually not a problem, action
       | scenes can get a little blocky but the quality is really pretty
       | great.
        
         | joecot wrote:
         | It didn't seem like Discord sent desktop audio with the screen
         | share. Does it do so, or did your friend do some magic to get
         | it to work? I've read for ex you can use pulseaudio on linux to
         | mix the input sources and then use that virtual output for
         | Discord, but I'd be happy to find an easier way.
        
           | TypeCaste wrote:
           | Share the application, not the desktop. It will capture the
           | application audio.
        
         | SirYandi wrote:
         | Not that this isn't a great idea and something I am now
         | thinking of doing, but I wonder if you're breaking some digital
         | rights law here (?)
        
           | jordigh wrote:
           | You are, and if you're in a big channel that brings a lot of
           | attention and Discord notices it they'll probably shut it
           | down. Same reason people don't just usually stream movies
           | from Twitch. I've seen some Twitch channels that do, like the
           | popular Bob Ross channel, but that's with approval of the
           | rights owners who get a cut of the revenue.
           | 
           | Keep it small and intimate in Discord and it will probably be
           | okay.
        
       | thrownaway954 wrote:
       | your title attribute says "Bing Together", you're missing an "e"
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | Thanks!
        
       | ryder9 wrote:
       | treesnetwork.com still exists
        
       | RangerScience wrote:
       | Does this work with Chromecast? Netflix Party doesn't, and that's
       | the main reason I don't use it.
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | No it does not, as there is no api for controling the playback
         | on the chromecast
        
       | kolchinski wrote:
       | This is great, I've wanted something like this in the past!
       | Thanks for building. I'll be giving it a try for a watch party I
       | was planning with friends.
       | 
       | Mind sharing how it works and what stack you used?
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | Awesome, hope it all works out.
         | 
         | Stack is quite simple: Frontend: Bulma.css, Vanilla Javascript,
         | HTML Backend: PHP, MariaDB
         | 
         | It works by redirecting in the right moment to the streaming
         | sites, via a JavaScript redirect.
         | 
         | The voice chat is done via https://meet.jit.si/
         | 
         | To handle potential big load, I force cloudflare to cache all
         | sites under url /p/* thereby after the creation of the watch
         | party, no request hits my server anymore :D
        
           | joecot wrote:
           | I'm guessing it doesn't handle people pausing the video like
           | Netflix Party or SyncLounge does then?
        
             | l1am0 wrote:
             | No that is currently not possible, as there is no way of
             | getting the information about the playback from the
             | website.
             | 
             | To enable this feature a browser plugin would be required
             | again.
             | 
             | With Binge Together I opted for not supporting that in
             | favor of an easier use. (Not everyone included needs to
             | install the extension etc.)
        
       | smoyer wrote:
       | This is an awesome project ... my daughters have been doing this
       | a bit just using group-chat on their phones but I'm going to
       | propose our small prep school has a movie night. I guess that
       | will test it at scale ;)
        
       | goda90 wrote:
       | So my movie nights with friends used to involve watching a
       | movie(on some streaming service or from disk), and then queuing
       | up a bunch of random YouTube videos over Chromecast. It would be
       | great if this wasn't tied to a single URL, but instead we could
       | make a room and add videos to a queue to watch.
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | Awesome feature idea! This is currently the MVP and a lot more
         | is to come. Will be added to my list.
         | 
         | The problem would be on how to start the next video, as it is a
         | javascript redirect only, so I have no information when a video
         | in the queue is finished. Maybe websockets and someone pressing
         | "next" could be an option.
        
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       | jjice wrote:
       | Really cool! Growing up, my friends and I spend many nights self
       | queuing or on similar sites. Out of curiosity, what's your stack?
       | Also, are there any plans for open source?
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | From other comment: Stack is quite simple: Frontend: Bulma.css,
         | Vanilla Javascript, HTML Backend: PHP, MariaDB
         | 
         | It works by redirecting in the right moment to the streaming
         | sites, via a JavaScript redirect.
         | 
         | The voice chat is done via https://meet.jit.si/
         | 
         | To handle potential big load, I force cloudflare to cache all
         | sites under url /p/* thereby after the creation of the watch
         | party, no request hits my server anymore :D
         | 
         | Currently I have no plan to open sourcing it
        
       | adriand wrote:
       | Sounds a little similar to https://rave.io/ Nice job!
        
       | Animats wrote:
       | You can do this in Second Life, although only for non-DRM video.
       | There are movie theaters and big-screen TVs in the virtual world.
       | You can watch with your friends, and talk or text to each other
       | over the video.
        
         | wolco wrote:
         | That sounds interesting. How do you find the places?
        
           | Animats wrote:
           | Look for movie theaters. Or buy a virtual big-screen TV for
           | your virtual house and invite friends over.
        
             | vxNsr wrote:
             | Finally! A use for the lumens I got from the Keybase
             | giveaway
        
       | amflare wrote:
       | Does this require everyone to have an account for the paid
       | services (Netflix for now)? Does this require anyone to have an
       | account for the paid services if you happen to be able to get
       | your hands on a Netflix URL?
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | Yes. Everyone involved need an account and needs to be logged
         | in as well.
         | 
         | It works by basically redirecting to the streaming website.
        
       | mattste wrote:
       | Have you investigated what it'd take to addd Hulu support? I find
       | majority of my shows are split between Netflix and Hulu.
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | Not yet as Hulu is not supported in germany (my home country).
         | Will digg into it in the next few hours.
         | 
         | Would anyone be willing to share their hulu account with me so
         | I can test it? bingehulu@simon-frey.com
        
       | usrbintaco wrote:
       | Does anyone want to babysit my kids remotely to fight boredom
       | cause I'm losing my mind.
        
       | chx wrote:
       | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18123862 is great. Really,
       | really great. No idea why it's not more widely recognized or
       | used.
        
       | effingwewt wrote:
       | I love this. I still speak fondly of the early days of netlfix,
       | when it first got into streaming on the 360. You could invite an
       | xbox live party to watch movies on Netflix. It had a border you
       | could enable that made it look like a theatre screen with seats,
       | with your live avatars sitting in them, a la Mystery Science
       | Theatre.
       | 
       | There was nothing quite like being in a chat party watching
       | movies together. You could talk as loudly as you wanted while
       | doing/eating what you wanted. Blew the actual theatre out of the
       | water.
       | 
       | Really amazing experience that was killed off way too soon
       | (greed, Netflix didn't want non subscribers to watch free).
       | 
       | Hopefully this is a road back there, definitely going to spread
       | this around and show some $love
       | 
       | edit: not finding a donation link, but if you get a link up I'm
       | happy to do so!
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | Thanks for all your kind feedback: Did not think of donations
         | so far, but here is my paypal: https://www.paypal.me/51edpo
         | 
         | Binge Together, still needs everyone involved to have an
         | account with the streaming services, thoug.
        
       | ghostpepper wrote:
       | This is very cool but I worry about your bandwidth bill if it
       | takes off. Does voice chat go through the server?
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | I static cache all /p/* site via cloudflare and the voice chat
         | is via jitsi meet an external privacy friendly service
        
       | russfink wrote:
       | What if someone is on a device like a Fire TV?
        
         | l1am0 wrote:
         | Currently this can not be supported with the tech stack I use.
         | (As it uses javascript redirects to start a video)
        
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