[HN Gopher] Open access to ACM Digital Library during coronaviru...
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Open access to ACM Digital Library during coronavirus pandemic
Author : scott_s
Score : 196 points
Date : 2020-03-30 14:10 UTC (8 hours ago)
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(TXT) w3m dump (www.acm.org)
| mkchoi212 wrote:
| This is awesome! Great decision by the folks at ACM! well done
| guys!!
| warvair wrote:
| "... if that really is your name."
| justin66 wrote:
| At first glance this appears to include everything _including
| conference proceedings,_ which makes it better than the access I
| had when I was in graduate school and better than I have
| currently as a standard ACM member. I hope I 'm correct about
| that.
| chrisseaton wrote:
| > better than the access I had when I was in graduate school
|
| How did you function as a graduate student without access to
| conference proceedings?
|
| > better than I have currently as a standard ACM member
|
| I think that's only if you de-select the option for the
| library, which people often do if they have institutional
| access (which will be almost all academic and industrial
| researchers I guess.)
| justin66 wrote:
| > How did you function as a graduate student without access
| to conference proceedings?
|
| I don't remember too many instances where a paper I wanted
| could not be found (read into that whatever you like), but I
| do remember hitting some annoying limits in my institution's
| access.
|
| > I think that's only if you de-select the option for the
| library, which people often do if they have institutional
| access (which will be almost all academic and industrial
| researchers I guess.)
|
| I only recently signed up., but I think it's possible we're
| not talking about the same thing. If my base level membership
| has access to all conference proceedings without additional
| charge - which seems to be what your comment is implying -
| it's a pleasant surprise.
| chrisxcross wrote:
| It should be Open Access all the time. Keep the change!
| nimish wrote:
| There was never a reason this wasn't open access, except to hoard
| information. Someone archive this and make it free forever.
| abnry wrote:
| I'm really curious how such an organization can ever maintain
| their copyright in the future as the defense could always say
| the defendant obtained the pdf from the free trial.
| Rerarom wrote:
| The pdfs can be timestamped.
| alharith wrote:
| Alright, someone tell me what are some must downloads? I've been
| out of college for a while so haven't kept up.
|
| edit: I am most interested in models of computing, and more
| recently ML-family of languages, and the theories behind it. I am
| also generally interested in those papers that people view as
| "classics" or serve as computing history. Hoares CSP, or most
| anything by Dijkstra that may not be public already.
| gshubert17 wrote:
| A list from 10 years ago,
| https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9220o/ask_prog...
| chrisseaton wrote:
| What are you interested in? If you like Ruby I maintain a list
| at https://rubybib.org/, and many of the ones with a paywall
| tag are now freely available and weren't before.
| kick wrote:
| What are you interested in? The recommendations I can make for
| someone fascinated with LISP are different than the ones I can
| make for someone interested in computing history are different
| than the ones I can make for someone interested in processor
| design and so on. There's a very wide selection here.
| tosh wrote:
| I'll take the "fascinated with LISP" ones :)
| kick wrote:
| This should get you started; just some links I had laying
| around:
|
| _Connection Machine Lisp: fine-grained parallel symbolic
| processing_ ; Steele, Hillis
|
| https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/319838.319870
|
| I'm biased because this one is effectively "What if we make
| an APL Lisp?"
|
| _Design of a LISP-based microprocessor_ ; Steele, Sussman
|
| https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/359024.359031
|
| This one is one of the hundreds that came out of the
| Mead/Conway book. Basically, it's a LISP-based VLSI chip.
|
| _Turtles and defense_ ; Sobalvarro, Klotz
|
| https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1056602.1056608
|
| As 'donhopkins put it:
|
| _It was Leigh Klotz 's sarcastic response to a Defense
| Department questionnaire to Terrapin about how their
| technology could be used to kill people.
|
| He proposed deploying a swarm of thousands of LOGO turtles
| to crawl around the battlefield in mesmerizing geometric
| patterns, and stab the enemy with a quick succession of
| PENUP and PENDOWN commands (proving once again that the pen
| is mightier than the sword)._
|
| (For more information:
|
| https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&qu
| e... )
| convolvatron wrote:
| I strongly recommend the first paper. I am still trying
| to realize something like it. I often wonder what Hillis
| and Steele would say about the topic..and whether they
| abandoned the idea because it wasn't tactically effective
| or whether it was just intractable.
|
| really glad to see it mentioned...too much great thought
| gets lost
|
| (scheme on silicon is up there too)
| sitkack wrote:
| > I often wonder what Hillis and Steele would say about
| the topic..and whether they abandoned the idea because it
| wasn't tactically effective or whether it was just
| intractable.
|
| You should email them and report back.
| dabei wrote:
| I'm interested in well written CS papers that have immediate
| practical value for a generalist backend software engineer.
| carapace wrote:
| Given your submissions to HN I'd say just go with whatever
| _you 're_ interested in, it's bound to be good. ;-)
|
| As for myself, anything in re: compiling functional and/or
| stack-based languages; and DSLs for GUIs.
|
| Cheers!
| kick wrote:
| _APL compilation and interpretation by translating to
| F83VEC_ ; Naugle
|
| https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/22415.22032
|
| Here's a double-hitter: compiling a functional language
| (APL) to a stack-based language (FORTH).
| carapace wrote:
| _awesome_
|
| - - - -
|
| I found a couple of interesting tidbits:
|
| Computer programming as an art, Donald E. Knuth
| https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/361604.361612
|
| Prolog - the language and its implementation compared
| with Lisp, David H D Warren, Luis M Pereira, Fernando C.
| N. Pereira https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/872734.806939
| ntietz wrote:
| I'm not the GP but I'd be super interested in any computing
| history recommendations.
| EamonnMR wrote:
| HOPL (History of Programming Languages) conference notes. I
| can't confirm that they're on there yet but they're riveting.
|
| ETA: They are!
|
| https://dl.acm.org/doi/book/10.1145/800025
|
| https://dl.acm.org/doi/proceedings/10.1145/154766
|
| https://dl.acm.org/doi/proceedings/10.1145/1238844
| cosmiccatnap wrote:
| I don't see anything for III
| dedosk wrote:
| Do you have any tip for android app that can provide some
| enhanced experience reading the pdf articles (like from ACM?) on
| Android mobile phone?
|
| I don't mean generic PDF reader for Android. I'm looking for
| something that provides similar user experience like Firefox's
| "reader view". Is there something like that?
| cordite wrote:
| Now their fancy js pages don't load
| cs702 wrote:
| The income from the ACM/IEEE's investment portfolio is large
| enough that it could fund _all_ of arXiv.org 's annual expenses
| ~20 times over, in perpetuity, without dipping into capital. See
| this thread for details:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22103763
| pinewurst wrote:
| I'm really hoping they'll open IEEE journals as well.
| a3_nm wrote:
| Part of me can't help but suspect that they are also doing this
| because, believe it or not, many computer science researchers
| don't know that these paywalls exist, because they are subscribed
| through their university. Now that they are stuck at home, these
| researchers could start noticing how inconvenient and ridiculous
| these paywalls are, given that they are the ones who write and
| typeset the papers and review the research for free.
|
| So it may be a smart move for ACM to avoid making researchers
| aware of paywalls, and continuing to drag this outdated
| publication model for a few more years... (If I'm not mistaken,
| most subscription money comes from universities, which subscribe
| annually, and there's very little revenue from individual
| downloads, so most likely this measure isn't actually costing ACM
| much in terms of revenue.)
| aglionby wrote:
| It's true (at least in my experience) that the paywall is
| transparently dealt with when connecting from a university
| network, but most sites make it pretty easy to access their
| content via your institutional login even if you're not.
| [deleted]
| Phelinofist wrote:
| "Your IP Address has been blocked - Please contact dl-
| support@acm.org" :(
|
| After just 100 DLs. Does anyone know whether I really have to
| write a mail or will the block get lifted after x hours?
| cjensen wrote:
| They gave you access to read... not to download and read later.
| So no shock you got blocked.
|
| IMHO as a life-long ACM member... library access should be
| permanently free. But that's clearly not what they have chosen
| to do.
| nerpderp82 wrote:
| Hell, I used to get blocked just for opening 8 papers in new
| tabs. Getting blocked after a 100 paper bender is pretty good
| luck!
| acd wrote:
| If you would like please consider becoming a professional member
| $99/year of ACM then you also get access to Safaribooksonline.
| Personally I think its good value for money.
|
| https://www.acm.org/membership/membership-options
| packetslave wrote:
| IIRC (admittedly it's been a few years), ACM Membership only
| got you access to a _selection_ of material from Safari, not
| the whole thing.
|
| That might have changed given that Safari has reorganized and
| changed like 5x in the past few years.
|
| Anyone confirm?
| wbsun wrote:
| Last year, I explicitly checked with Safari customer service
| about this, told them this is too good to be true since a
| regular Safari membership costs 3x of the ACM membership. The
| customer service replied and confirmed there is nothing
| different. So go for it :) The basic ACM membership is really
| a good deal.
| lstamour wrote:
| Can also confirm it's the full library, you just sign in via
| SSO. Happy to support the ACM too.
| EamonnMR wrote:
| Check out the HOPL conferences, they're really fascinating. I'll
| post a link if I can find an index of them.
| EamonnMR wrote:
| https://dl.acm.org/action/doSearch?AllField=HOPL&startPage=&...
| rbanffy wrote:
| Can we shame the IEEE and their Computer Society into doing the
| same?
| convolvatron wrote:
| if you make this permanent I'd be happy to start paying my dues
| again
| mindcrime wrote:
| Same here.
| mr337 wrote:
| Same here as well!
| alharith wrote:
| I know this place discourages this sort of thing, but
| really want to make this emphasized in case anyone from the
| ACM is reading:
|
| same here x3!
| sitkack wrote:
| As someone with a corporate account and a scihub user, I
| want to declare the same (this isn't new). Open access to
| civilization's research is the is how a mature
| civilization should behave. I would gladly start paying
| ACM dues again if they kept this access open.
| EamonnMR wrote:
| Seconded. I loved having access to this as a student and would
| love other curious people to be able to get at these papers.
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