[HN Gopher] Show HN: FullStory - Private-by-Default Mobile Analy...
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       Show HN: FullStory - Private-by-Default Mobile Analytics
        
       Author : mmastrac
       Score  : 46 points
       Date   : 2020-03-31 18:31 UTC (4 hours ago)
        
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       | myu701 wrote:
       | The kicker for this is whether the user is in control of the
       | amount of masking going on or not.
       | 
       | If the app maker is in control, and the user can do nothing but
       | use the app or not, then while the new defaults are better than
       | nothing, I will continue to have all known FS domain names
       | blocked on my devices / not use said apps at all.
       | 
       | Can the user permanently set and forget a "I don't care if the
       | devs want analytics, they aren't getting them from me" flag in
       | the app? If yes, good. If yes by default, better.
       | 
       | Can the user see what the analytics wants to unmask? If yes,
       | good. Can they permanently make surgical tweaks to the unmasks to
       | not unmask certain fields? If yes, better and impressive.
       | 
       | Edit: the wireframing and reconstructing from xaml views is quite
       | the technical innovation, better than screenshots indeed.
        
         | mmastrac wrote:
         | We offer a small level of control via the FS.consent API that
         | we have available across platforms
         | (https://developer.fullstory.com/consent), but at this time the
         | app maker is really in control.
         | 
         | I'd love to have us give better controls to end-users -- we're
         | still investigating ways for users to better control things
         | like that on their own devices. The web makes this a bit easier
         | with adchoices (ie: setting cross-domain cookies opting out)
         | and the ability to more easily block domain patterns with
         | browser plugins.
         | 
         | We have an internal team that is dedicated purely to privacy
         | innovation and I'll bring this up with them.
         | 
         | > Edit: the wireframing and reconstructing from xaml views is
         | quite the technical innovation, better than screenshots indeed.
         | 
         | Thanks! This took us a _long_ time to get right, as you can
         | imagine.
        
           | Dustie wrote:
           | Seems simple enough: To turn on any analytics users should be
           | redirected from the app to the webpage. Anyone that doesn't
           | go there and turn it on should have it off no matter what the
           | app developer does. But I'm guessing you don't _really_ want
           | to make it a user choice.
        
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       | mmastrac wrote:
       | Hey all - we've been working on a brand new approach to mobile
       | analytics and session capture for the last 4 1/2 years. Our team
       | is ultra-focused on building something that we can be comfortable
       | with using in apps on our own devices and we're very happy with
       | the balance we have struck.
       | 
       | This blog post scratches the surface on the approach we're taking
       | and how we've balanced privacy and fidelity.
       | 
       | The product page has some additional info as well:
       | 
       | https://www.fullstory.com/mobile-apps/
       | 
       | Happy to answer any questions about how we are doing this, how
       | we're putting privacy first, or technical questions. Some other
       | folks from the team will be around as well.
        
         | lachyg wrote:
         | There is a demo request form, but no information on whether
         | it's generally available. Is it?
        
           | mmastrac wrote:
           | It is generally available, but we're throttling new customers
           | while we scale up as the privacy features require a slightly
           | higher level of hand-holding (we'd rather launch slower than
           | risk someone accidentally capturing sensitive information).
        
       | k2xl wrote:
       | love fullstory - great atlanta company, and i know a bunch of
       | people that work there are stellar! an issue i've had with them
       | is the cost is very high in comparison to other products in the
       | space.
       | 
       | something that is interesting to note is how similar to UI is to
       | their competitor LogRocket. I don't know who copied who (or maybe
       | they both copied someone else?), but the similarities in look and
       | feel were very uncanny
        
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