[HN Gopher] FortressOne: Quake Team Fortress (1996) mod still un...
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FortressOne: Quake Team Fortress (1996) mod still under active
development
Author : drzel
Score : 101 points
Date : 2020-04-04 09:57 UTC (1 days ago)
(HTM) web link (www.fortressone.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (www.fortressone.org)
| Svperstar wrote:
| One of the first mods I ever got into was the original TF. Too
| bad I pinged like 200 m/s from the majority of the servers so at
| best I could log in and spam grenades before I died. lol.
| drzel wrote:
| Our nightly games are played on local servers with 13ms pings,
| but we still have international matches played on midpoint
| servers, with most players pinging between 150-200ms. Holds up
| very well.
| kovek wrote:
| What if servers always enforced a minimum ping on the users!
| Never thought of this. Then, I might have had better luck
| playing shooters games when I was younger.
| drzel wrote:
| We do exactly this for example, for Australia vs USA
| matches, hosted in California. With minping, all players
| ping around 160ms.
| xvf22 wrote:
| I remember playing team fortress on my IBM Aptiva with the awful
| modem/soundcard combo which meant I could either play online or
| with sound but not both. Given the abundance in time inside all
| of a sudden I think I'll give this a try. Thanks for sharing!
| drzel wrote:
| Hey - please do! Discord is the best place to connect:
| https://discord.fortressone.org
| bmn__ wrote:
| The user experience is from the past millennium.
|
| 1. I downloaded the game and unpacked it. It would not start.
| Debugging reveals a dependency upon libpcre.so.3. This is not
| packaged (obsoleted by libpcre2). I hacked around the problem by
| making a link to libpcre.so.1. Imagine someone who is not a
| programmer, would he be able to figure that out?
|
| 2. I ran the game and go into the options menu. The text is so
| small it is almost unreadable and there is no way to make it
| bigger. We Quake players are all old farts now who more often
| than not have deteriorated vision.
|
| 3. I got the server list and attempted to join an empty server
| with low ping in the neighbouring country so I could experiment a
| bit. The game proceeds to download lots of files at 7 kB/s with
| no indication of overall progress. After four minutes of waiting
| I cancel out.
|
| 4. I find the menu to host a local server. Running it errors out
| in the console: something something DM4 not found.
|
| 5. I decide to write up what happened to HN. I quit the game.
| Gamma settings for the desktop environment are messed up.
| drzel wrote:
| Hey thank you for the feedback - you're not wrong. We haven't
| exaclty given Linux the focus it deserves. We're aware of these
| issues and working on fixing them.
|
| As for the server, we run servers around the world including
| FortressOne in the title. These should work well, there are a
| couple of older community servers which... Literally are from
| the last millenium.
| starpilot wrote:
| Ok. I am not even going to try to get it running on Catalina.
| TsomArp wrote:
| Works perfectly in windows. And I have not the best sight.
| [deleted]
| yesimahuman wrote:
| This brings back so many memories. What got me into servers and
| programming in the first place was setting up quakeworld servers
| and modding them.
|
| What I miss the most are rocketjumping maps. I spent so many
| hours on those servers but it seems most of the maps are gone
| from the historical record.
| wgerard wrote:
| And concjumping maps from TFC! Those were a ton of fun.
| b0rsuk wrote:
| Long ago when the number of games was much lower, you could count
| on people to know or hear about all the major games. There was a
| sense of community, of shared culture. Just like the first years
| after communism officially ended in Poland - there were 3 TV
| stations and there were cartoons at 19:00 every single day, with
| especially good ones on sunday. You could walk up to a random kid
| in class and start a conversation about his favorite bedtime
| cartoon. Or there was very limited choice in common household
| appliances and furniture, so countless people had the same
| models.
|
| Yes, it's nostalgia too, but it was fun to have a sense of shared
| culture. Fragmentation has its downsides. I'm not sure how to
| have the cookie and eat it.
| wgerard wrote:
| There's also Fortress Forever, for anyone who misses TFC:
| https://store.steampowered.com/app/253530/Fortress_Forever/
| catblast wrote:
| This was always cool. Wasn't it released shortly before TF2 and
| pretty much steamrolled into obscurity after that?
| sitzkrieg wrote:
| yep, it had a decent community for a few years but is mostly
| skeleton crew pickups at this point
| Jaruzel wrote:
| The best and most fun Quakeworld mod was 'Capture the head' (or
| maybe it was called 'Headhunters' I'm not sure).
|
| Every time you gibbed someone you could pick up their head, and
| run around with it attached to to you until you 'dropped' on a
| specific spawn point to score. You could run around with up to 6
| heads attached to you in a 'chain' - if someone gibbed you, they
| could then pick up all your heads.
|
| Very tactical, and lots of fun!
| AdmiralAsshat wrote:
| I played TFC a little bit back in the day (missed its heyday,
| unfortunately, but the TFC Gold servers continued to be active on
| Steam long after TF2 was released).
|
| It's easy to think that TF2 "streamlined" the experience by
| removing bunny hopping and grenades, but honestly, whenever I try
| to go back to it, grenades are just annoying. They render much of
| the well-tuned class distinctions obsolete when even the medic
| can blow you up
| wgerard wrote:
| The medic in TFC was really an offensive assault class, MUCH
| more analogous to TF2s scout than TF2s medic.
|
| The scout class itself was actually rarely used because the
| medic was significantly more dangerous!
| catblast wrote:
| In most servers you carry like two or three grenades though,
| usually not reloadable. It's doesn't imbalance that much.
| partisan wrote:
| I had nothing but good times playing TF in 1997/1998. I joined
| clans and made friends online in a way that seems almost
| impossible to do nowadays.
|
| Action Quake 2 and CS through 1.6 offered similar opportunities
| to make good friends, but TF was the advent of that for me.
| drzel wrote:
| This game is a beautiful piece of living internet history. We
| still play competitively, the emergent gameplay continues to
| evolve. Most of the community have been playing for over 20
| years, and a huge percentage of the players are contributing to
| code, art etc.
| twistt wrote:
| Hey Zel! Congrats to you and all involved for keeping this
| historic game alive.
| drzel wrote:
| And thanks for one of the best game videos of all time twist.
| bladespirit wrote:
| Same awsome game updated to 2020 standards !
| pugworthy wrote:
| I worked for Rogue Wave Software years ago, and we used to play
| this on the corporate LAN at lunch time. IT guys were in on it
| too, and would quietly upgrade all the players to be on the "good
| LAN" for better connectivity.
|
| Once the head of Tech Support from Boulder showed up during lunch
| hour and saw me playing, and says "You guys play too?!" - so then
| we each shifted lunch hour by half an hour and had cross site
| fun.
|
| I will say that it was by far the best and most effective social
| engagement thing that existed cross organization on each site,
| and between sites. Well that and the free bagels and espresso
| machine.
| jaequery wrote:
| TF was good but I miss Rocket Arena more
| evanmoran wrote:
| Couldn't agree more. For those wondering, Rocket Arena was an
| amazing team game (last team alive gets a point, or optionally
| CTF rules) where each player starts with ALL of the weapons,
| armor and ammo in the game. Since everyone had a rocket
| launcher, railgun, grenade launcher, shotgun, etc, this focused
| the game on team strategy / communication and shooting accuracy
| rather than on timing the weapon / player health spawns. This
| would have been awesome by itself, but Rocket Area also made it
| so that rockets didn't do damage to your health (though they
| did hurt your armor!) so you could freely move with rocket
| jumping. This created unbelievable mobility and many beautiful
| custom maps were made; just imagine huge castles where your
| skill at rocket jumping allowed you to soar from turret to
| turret.
|
| Here's a good video showing the mobility and skill involved in
| using all the weapons at once:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhzK5fL1mj0
|
| Here's some of the maps that were common:
| http://www.bosskey.net/q3a/maps/standard.html
| tomc1985 wrote:
| This reminds me of Instagib mode in UT ... same gameplay
| twist: since everyone is on an even playing field with a
| hitscan instakill gun, accuracy and agility were much more
| important
| bberrry wrote:
| Oh wow, QWTF was my absolute first contact with online gaming and
| it is so dear to my heart. They were such innocent times. People
| asking strangers on servers to join their clan and I remember
| cherishing my clan tag so much. I was on dialup and didn't start
| using the mouse for a least a couple of months, but like I did,
| innocent times and no one was whining or rude.
| rhexs wrote:
| Speaking of older games, are there any (other) active communities
| these days that still play competitive capture-the-flag style
| games? CTF seemingly died years and years ago and most games
| these days are sort of regressing to various spins on deathmatch
| style modes.
|
| Miss TFC/Unreal Tournament style CTF communities, but I'm not
| sure there's anything left aside from obscure discord communities
| that occasionally throw together a few matches.
| highstep wrote:
| 2fort on TF2 is still popular. CTF can also be found in the new
| Quake Champions. Both games are free to play.
| richardboegli wrote:
| Diabotical [0] will be free to play when it is released.
|
| [0] Diabotical.com
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