[HN Gopher] Codeberg: a free, non-commercial GitHub alternative
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Codeberg: a free, non-commercial GitHub alternative
Author : passthejoe
Score : 58 points
Date : 2020-04-06 17:45 UTC (5 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (codeberg.org)
(TXT) w3m dump (codeberg.org)
| yjftsjthsd-h wrote:
| So compared to gitlab and sourcehut (my other favorite options
| for free github alternatives), this is librejs complaint
| (sourcehut has this, don't think gitlab does), and has a github-
| like UI. It seems to be pushing the privacy angle and is hosted
| in the EU. Any other big reasons to prefer this over
| gitlab/sourcehut/self-hosted?
| darau1 wrote:
| > this is librejs complaint
|
| What does this mean/imply exactly?
| ampdepolymerase wrote:
| There is also OneDev:
| https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22081419
| ashishbindra wrote:
| I couldn't find any "about" page. Who owns it? Who are the people
| behind it?
| ericdanielski wrote:
| https://codeberg.org/codeberg/org/src/branch/master/Imprint....
| tmalsburg2 wrote:
| You didn't find it because you didn't look. Scroll to the
| bottom of the page and click on "Imprint". Quote:
|
| "Codeberg is a non-profit organisation dedicated to build and
| maintain supporting infrastructure for the creation,
| collection, dissemination, and archiving of Free and Open
| Source Software. If you have questions, suggestions or
| comments, please do not hesitate to contact us at
| contact@codeberg.org."
|
| It's a kind of club ("eingetragener Verein" [1]) that is funded
| by its members and through donations.
|
| [1]
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_association_(German...
| recursive wrote:
| I think a lot of people are probably unfamiliar with any
| definition of "imprint" that would cause them to look there.
| I know I can't explain what it means in this context.
| nutjob2 wrote:
| It comes from Impressum, essentially a form of
| identification for publishers, but imprint is the English
| word used for the German legal requirement.
|
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressum
|
| https://www.privacycompany.eu/blogpost-en/the-imprint-
| requir...
| hundchenkatze wrote:
| FWIW I saw the Imprint link at the bottom, but I didn't know
| that's where I could find company info. However, there was a
| link to their mission statement in the middle of the page
| which includes the same info.
| [deleted]
| hundchenkatze wrote:
| Here's some info from their blog
| https://blog.codeberg.org/codebergorg-launched.html
| xeeeeeeeeeeenu wrote:
| Their half-translated UI (my browser is set to polish) is
| extremely off-putting.
|
| So many people seem to think that providing low quality
| translations is improving accessibility. It isn't. It's doing the
| opposite, pure english websites provide _much_ better UX to
| international users.
|
| BTW, Microsoft with their automatically translated MSDN docs is
| by far the worst offender in this area.
| omar_elrefaei wrote:
| > So many people seem to think that providing low quality
| translations is improving accessibility. It isn't. It's doing
| the opposite, pure english websites provide much better UX to
| international users.
|
| Good to know
| marten-de-vries wrote:
| That's the case because you speak English. Think about the last
| time you had to navigate a website in a language you didn't
| speak (in my case e.g. Chinese or Russian). I remember being
| very happy with a few (incomplete) clues in English about were
| to look and what to expect.
|
| By all means, advocate for making it easy to change the
| language back to the original. But this stance _will_ decrease
| accessibility.
| aaomidi wrote:
| Localization is a difficult problem no one has solved yet. If
| you find a solution please write about it.
|
| Not translating isn't really a solution.
|
| Wanting everything to be 100% translated is also unrealistic.
| rad_gruchalski wrote:
| How can you say that localization is a difficult problem that
| no one has solved yet. i18n is the case for as long as I've
| been writing software, and probably longer. So minimum 20
| years.
|
| I do agree that it's not a walk in the park because it takes
| loads of resources to provide actual translations and one has
| to make i18n a feature in the code. But... come on.
| phpMyAdmin was doing this in 2004.
| flohofwoe wrote:
| When the audience is programmers or generally tech people,
| not translating from English might indeed be the best option.
| The lingua franca of technology _is_ English.
|
| E.g. looking at the quality of Microsoft's German
| translations (which seem to be done by a poorly trained bot),
| the translation is actually counterproductive, because it's
| full of special terms translated into German that either
| would not be translated from English in a "native" German
| text, or where a different translation is commonly used.
|
| My favourite is the Visual Studio translation for Link-Time
| Code-Generation. Which is translated as "Link-Zeitcode
| Generierung" which in English means "Link Timecode
| Generation".
| tobr wrote:
| Especially when you never see the subject matter translated
| anyway, which would be the case with Git. There aren't any
| conventional translations of words like "repo" or "pull
| request" in most languages, and when you try you risk making it
| incomprehensible, or comical.
|
| For example, take their Swedish translation of "pull request":
| "Pull-forfragning". They had to leave "pull" untranslated,
| probably because it would be impossible to understand if you
| actually were to translate it word by word; unfortunately
| "pulla" is a sexual slang word in Swedish [1], so the whole
| translation sounds like a request for sexual assistance.
|
| 1: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pulla#Swedish
| capableweb wrote:
| I think it very much depends on the the country.
|
| In Sweden, you can assume that pretty much everyone understands
| English, so if your website has an incomplete Swedish
| translation, might just be better to go with English one
| anyways.
|
| But in Spain (outside the big cities), not that many people do
| understand English. In that case, it'll be better to serve a
| incomplete Spanish version instead of in English, as otherwise
| they'll be completely lost.
|
| So as always, I'd say it really depends, and it's hard to
| generalize over all "international users".
| app4soft wrote:
| repo.or.cz -- one more free hosting alternative to GitHub,
| especially for FLOSS projects.[0]
|
| [0] http://repo.or.cz/about.html
| sovok_x wrote:
| Its mobile UI is broken all over on my system. But I am all in
| for _getting inspired_ by exact Github UX /UI. They're the main
| reason I don't want to switch to alternatives even if I hate
| Github after MS-merger and following "improvements of the
| service".
| [deleted]
| passthejoe wrote:
| https://codeberg.org uses the https://gitea.io software for its
| free remote Git repository service. If you're uncomfortable with
| non-free software, open-core, commercial underpinnings and/or
| corporate ownership of Github and Gitlab, hosting your repos on
| Codeberg -- or starting your own Gitea site -- are very viable
| alternatives.
|
| (Edited for typos)
| richardwhiuk wrote:
| It's difficult to see how gitea is anything other than a
| copyright infringement of GitHub.
|
| Compare:
|
| - https://codeberg.org/n0mad/vulkan-tests
|
| - https://try.gitea.io/egrteg/LibreLingo
|
| - https://github.com/kantord/LibreLingo
| tmalsburg2 wrote:
| Please do yourself a favor and google "copyright".
| hundchenkatze wrote:
| What are they infringing on? Site layout? There are tons of
| Github alternatives that all follow similar layout and
| styles. Gitlab, Gogs, Bitbucket...
| dgreensp wrote:
| Thanks, this was very helpful! I was scanning the prose on the
| Codeberg website looking to see if Codeberg itself was open
| source, but all it said was that it was "free" and "non-
| profit."
|
| Now I see that Gitea is the software (basically a clone of
| GitHub that is visually almost div-for-div, released with an
| MIT license, that you can host yourself), and Codeberg is
| central hosting (a "hub") running Gitea, operated as a non-
| profit.
| arghwhat wrote:
| See https://sourcehut.org/ for a vastly different source code
| hosting solution. If you're interested in something other than an
| open source GitHub clone, then that is more likely to interest
| you.
| passthejoe wrote:
| Very interesting. Thanks for the link. I will definitely be
| looking at this.
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