[HN Gopher] Show HN: We're unlocking 1M Covid-19 testing capacit... ___________________________________________________________________ Show HN: We're unlocking 1M Covid-19 testing capacity per day Author : dvdt Score : 38 points Date : 2020-04-07 22:37 UTC (22 minutes ago) (HTM) web link (www.billiontoone.com) (TXT) w3m dump (www.billiontoone.com) | voz_ wrote: | LMK if you need help making your site work. | supernova87a wrote: | Can someone here explain in a couple of points what the idea is? | While the site is overwhelmed? | | Edit, is the idea (for the non-expert): | | 1) Repurposing idle gene sequencing equipment left over from | Human Genome project | | 2) Reducing / removing the step of having to extract the RNA of | the virus as the marker | | 3) Making these tests / machines available widely across the | country so that the delay to getting a result is minimized ? | tbenst wrote: | Thanks for your efforts! Inspiring to see our broader community | spring into action. | | I was part of a volunteer team that tested 3400 people on | Friday/Saturday in Santa Clara country for COVID-19 antibodies. | It took a team of 100+ volunteers 10 hours / day just to collect | samples. | | Stanford, for example, has plenty of automated testing capacity, | and even reagents. IMHO, the limiting factors are not that we | need new tests, but rather we need (1) lighter regulations (2) | funding to buy supplies and (3) massive manpower to scale-up | drive through testing | dang wrote: | While waiting for the site to come back: Internet archive has a | version from earlier today. | | https://web.archive.org/web/20200407224229/https://www.billi... | dvdt wrote: | I'm the co-founder and CTO at BillionToOne. I'm happy to answer | any questions here. I've also posted a slightly more technical | explanation of how the test works and why it can scale here: | https://twitter.com/dtsao/status/1247642005510873088?s=21 | | Edit: Since our site seems to be overwhelmed at the moment, I'm | posting here a recap: | | We've been working hard at BillionToOne on a new COVID-19 test | that scales testing to everyone in the US. Our test (1) re- | purposes existing infrastructure, (2) eliminates time-consuming | RNA extraction, and (3) enables a distributed system for COVID-19 | testing. | | We need 1 million tests per day to end the stay-at-home orders. | Schools are still open in Iceland because they test 15x more than | the US does, per capita | (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/04/02/free- | coronav...). | | The first thing we figured out is how to run COVID-19 tests on | existing automated Sanger sequencers. One sequencer can process | up to 3840 samples per day. There are hundreds of sequencers of | excess capacity because they were built for the Human Genome | Project over 20 years ago. | | It would take only 2 sequencers to surpass the current test | capacity for all of California. There are far more than 2 | sequencers in California (some individual labs have 10 or more). | | We tweaked the protocol so COVID-19 could be detected from | sequencing data using machine learning. Basically, we add ~100 | copies of a known DNA sequence to help us calculate how much | virus nucleic acid is in the specimen. It works just as well as | gold-standard RT-qPCR. | | Lab workflow for COVID-19 testing is traditionally 1. Specimen | accessioning, 2. RNA extraction, 3. RT-qPCR 4. Reporting. RNA | extraction, in particular, has been a huge bottleneck in terms of | reagent shortages and labor-intensiveness. | | We showed that we can skip RNA extraction entirely without | affecting test sensitivity and limit of detection. | | By skipping RNA extraction and using automated Sanger sequencers, | we think we can get to an additional 200,000 samples per day test | capacity in existing clinical labs. | | A distributed system is often the only way to operate at massive | scale. A fully distributed system could have different sites and | labs responsible for each process and dynamically re-allocate | resources based on availability and capacity. | | The Broad institute COVID-19 lab has already started doing this. | They are asking for specimens to be submitted in a standardized | tube format and pre-barcoded. They have essentially distributed | the specimen accessioning work. | | Because there is a highly developed service industry for Sanger | sequencing with <24 hour turnaround, there is an opportunity to | further scale up testing by distributing the work to their | (currently) idle sequencers. | | Distributed testing could scale from 200k to >1 million tests per | day, but would require a change in regulations that currently | prohibit it. | | Thanks to the BillionToOne team for pulling this work together! | Next step is to start manufacturing test kits and obtain | Emergency Use Authorization from the FDA. We're eager to work | with clinical Lab Directors and contract kit manufacturers. | [deleted] | thelean12 wrote: | Your site seems to be getting hugged to death. Can you answer a | few questions here: | | - Is this test to see if someone currently has it, or if they | have the anti-bodies and are (presumably) immune? | | - What are the false-positive/false-negative rates? How does this | compare to current leading tests? | | - What's the cost per test? How does this compare to current | leading tests? | dvdt wrote: | Thanks for letting me know about the site! | | This is a test to see if someone has a current COVID-19 | infection. The antibody tests (serological) tests are also | important, but since it is estimated that only ~1% of the US | has previously contracted COVID-19, it will be a while before | serological testing becomes useful at a population level. | | Our initial data show no false-positives and no false-negatives | out of all specimens assayed. However, it is early days still | and _none_ of the leading tests have real-world data on false- | positive and false-negative rates. The crucial parameter here | to compare test performance is limit of detection (LOD). We | showed we could detect as few as 10 molecules of virus, which | is on par with the best RT-qPCR tests. | | Cost is definitely an important consideration for roll-out of a | widespread test. We anticipate that the cost will be about $15 | per test. | bb88 wrote: | Hmm... website seems overloaded atm. | Turukawa wrote: | Why advertise before you've got FDA approval? | nomel wrote: | The FDA _is_ the lock. ___________________________________________________________________ (page generated 2020-04-07 23:00 UTC)