[HN Gopher] Show HN: We're unlocking 1M Covid-19 testing capacit...
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       Show HN: We're unlocking 1M Covid-19 testing capacity per day
        
       Author : dvdt
       Score  : 38 points
       Date   : 2020-04-07 22:37 UTC (22 minutes ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.billiontoone.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (www.billiontoone.com)
        
       | voz_ wrote:
       | LMK if you need help making your site work.
        
       | supernova87a wrote:
       | Can someone here explain in a couple of points what the idea is?
       | While the site is overwhelmed?
       | 
       | Edit, is the idea (for the non-expert):
       | 
       | 1) Repurposing idle gene sequencing equipment left over from
       | Human Genome project
       | 
       | 2) Reducing / removing the step of having to extract the RNA of
       | the virus as the marker
       | 
       | 3) Making these tests / machines available widely across the
       | country so that the delay to getting a result is minimized ?
        
       | tbenst wrote:
       | Thanks for your efforts! Inspiring to see our broader community
       | spring into action.
       | 
       | I was part of a volunteer team that tested 3400 people on
       | Friday/Saturday in Santa Clara country for COVID-19 antibodies.
       | It took a team of 100+ volunteers 10 hours / day just to collect
       | samples.
       | 
       | Stanford, for example, has plenty of automated testing capacity,
       | and even reagents. IMHO, the limiting factors are not that we
       | need new tests, but rather we need (1) lighter regulations (2)
       | funding to buy supplies and (3) massive manpower to scale-up
       | drive through testing
        
       | dang wrote:
       | While waiting for the site to come back: Internet archive has a
       | version from earlier today.
       | 
       | https://web.archive.org/web/20200407224229/https://www.billi...
        
       | dvdt wrote:
       | I'm the co-founder and CTO at BillionToOne. I'm happy to answer
       | any questions here. I've also posted a slightly more technical
       | explanation of how the test works and why it can scale here:
       | https://twitter.com/dtsao/status/1247642005510873088?s=21
       | 
       | Edit: Since our site seems to be overwhelmed at the moment, I'm
       | posting here a recap:
       | 
       | We've been working hard at BillionToOne on a new COVID-19 test
       | that scales testing to everyone in the US. Our test (1) re-
       | purposes existing infrastructure, (2) eliminates time-consuming
       | RNA extraction, and (3) enables a distributed system for COVID-19
       | testing.
       | 
       | We need 1 million tests per day to end the stay-at-home orders.
       | Schools are still open in Iceland because they test 15x more than
       | the US does, per capita
       | (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/04/02/free-
       | coronav...).
       | 
       | The first thing we figured out is how to run COVID-19 tests on
       | existing automated Sanger sequencers. One sequencer can process
       | up to 3840 samples per day. There are hundreds of sequencers of
       | excess capacity because they were built for the Human Genome
       | Project over 20 years ago.
       | 
       | It would take only 2 sequencers to surpass the current test
       | capacity for all of California. There are far more than 2
       | sequencers in California (some individual labs have 10 or more).
       | 
       | We tweaked the protocol so COVID-19 could be detected from
       | sequencing data using machine learning. Basically, we add ~100
       | copies of a known DNA sequence to help us calculate how much
       | virus nucleic acid is in the specimen. It works just as well as
       | gold-standard RT-qPCR.
       | 
       | Lab workflow for COVID-19 testing is traditionally 1. Specimen
       | accessioning, 2. RNA extraction, 3. RT-qPCR 4. Reporting. RNA
       | extraction, in particular, has been a huge bottleneck in terms of
       | reagent shortages and labor-intensiveness.
       | 
       | We showed that we can skip RNA extraction entirely without
       | affecting test sensitivity and limit of detection.
       | 
       | By skipping RNA extraction and using automated Sanger sequencers,
       | we think we can get to an additional 200,000 samples per day test
       | capacity in existing clinical labs.
       | 
       | A distributed system is often the only way to operate at massive
       | scale. A fully distributed system could have different sites and
       | labs responsible for each process and dynamically re-allocate
       | resources based on availability and capacity.
       | 
       | The Broad institute COVID-19 lab has already started doing this.
       | They are asking for specimens to be submitted in a standardized
       | tube format and pre-barcoded. They have essentially distributed
       | the specimen accessioning work.
       | 
       | Because there is a highly developed service industry for Sanger
       | sequencing with <24 hour turnaround, there is an opportunity to
       | further scale up testing by distributing the work to their
       | (currently) idle sequencers.
       | 
       | Distributed testing could scale from 200k to >1 million tests per
       | day, but would require a change in regulations that currently
       | prohibit it.
       | 
       | Thanks to the BillionToOne team for pulling this work together!
       | Next step is to start manufacturing test kits and obtain
       | Emergency Use Authorization from the FDA. We're eager to work
       | with clinical Lab Directors and contract kit manufacturers.
        
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       | thelean12 wrote:
       | Your site seems to be getting hugged to death. Can you answer a
       | few questions here:
       | 
       | - Is this test to see if someone currently has it, or if they
       | have the anti-bodies and are (presumably) immune?
       | 
       | - What are the false-positive/false-negative rates? How does this
       | compare to current leading tests?
       | 
       | - What's the cost per test? How does this compare to current
       | leading tests?
        
         | dvdt wrote:
         | Thanks for letting me know about the site!
         | 
         | This is a test to see if someone has a current COVID-19
         | infection. The antibody tests (serological) tests are also
         | important, but since it is estimated that only ~1% of the US
         | has previously contracted COVID-19, it will be a while before
         | serological testing becomes useful at a population level.
         | 
         | Our initial data show no false-positives and no false-negatives
         | out of all specimens assayed. However, it is early days still
         | and _none_ of the leading tests have real-world data on false-
         | positive and false-negative rates. The crucial parameter here
         | to compare test performance is limit of detection (LOD). We
         | showed we could detect as few as 10 molecules of virus, which
         | is on par with the best RT-qPCR tests.
         | 
         | Cost is definitely an important consideration for roll-out of a
         | widespread test. We anticipate that the cost will be about $15
         | per test.
        
       | bb88 wrote:
       | Hmm... website seems overloaded atm.
        
       | Turukawa wrote:
       | Why advertise before you've got FDA approval?
        
         | nomel wrote:
         | The FDA _is_ the lock.
        
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