[HN Gopher] "Mamma Desta" and Ethiopian food in the U.S
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       "Mamma Desta" and Ethiopian food in the U.S
        
       Author : samclemens
       Score  : 19 points
       Date   : 2020-04-12 20:56 UTC (2 hours ago)
        
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       | anw wrote:
       | Living in Los Angeles, we are fortunate to have a Little Ethiopia
       | with plenty of restaurants baking delicious dishes. It's been a
       | good opportunity to bring in friends from out of town to try
       | "exotic" food and let them see that unfamiliar food to them can
       | also be completely delicious, and even become a new favorite
       | dish.
       | 
       | Note: If you have not tried Ethiopian food, check out Yebeg
       | Alecha (Lamb Stew), along with the combination vegetable dishes
       | that come with Injera (a thin, spongy bread that you can tear and
       | use as a pocket for the vegetables).
        
       | clairity wrote:
       | angelenos, and visitors to LA, should check out awash[0] in mid-
       | city, near (but not in) the ethiopian district on fairfax. it's
       | an absolute hole-in-the-wall with warm but wonderfully slow
       | service (expect to wait 45 minutes to get served after ordering).
       | you're expected to relax and chat with friends, unlike korean bbq
       | restaurtants that try to turn your table over as fast as possible
       | (that's why they cook the meat for you even at the table grill).
       | get the vege combo (pictured in the link below) and the awaze
       | tibbs (or the meat combo, which includes it).
       | 
       | it's fabulous and very reasonably priced.
       | 
       | [0] #1 on this list: https://la.eater.com/maps/best-restaurants-
       | los-angeless-litt...
        
         | anw wrote:
         | Thanks for the recommendation! I haven't been to Awash, usually
         | checking out the restaurants in that one block area on Fairfax
         | (and usually Lalibela, at that). It's nice to see something new
         | when you thought you tried them all :)
        
           | clairity wrote:
           | you're welcome! it's hard to go wrong picking at random on
           | fairfax--they're all pretty good. but awash has been my
           | favorite for many years now, so i'm happy to send them more
           | business (when it can open again) even at the risk of getting
           | crowded out sometimes.
        
       | modsWork4appl wrote:
       | Is beef and chicken really available in quantities and prices
       | deemed "affordable" in Ethiopia?
       | 
       | Beef seems like a luxury good here. Chicken may not be quite
       | luxury, but it's more expensive than vegetarian.
        
         | ueudrjjj wrote:
         | It's probably more available in the US than in Ethiopia but
         | it's still a part of the cuisine. Interestingly, according to
         | the guy who runs my local place, mushrooms are also found in
         | Ethiopian cooking but are often left off the menus because (his
         | words not mine) "white people don't think mushrooms are
         | authentic".
        
       | Skunkleton wrote:
       | I love Ethiopian food, but it has never seemed mainstream to me.
       | Claiming it's part of the shared American palate is going to need
       | a citation.
        
         | ummonk wrote:
         | Yeah, I've eaten Ethiopian food and liked it, but unless I've
         | been completely out of the loop, Ethiopian food is not "an
         | American fascination".
        
           | dang wrote:
           | Ok, we've taken fascination out of the title above.
        
       | Der_Einzige wrote:
       | This food looks delicious and I'd love to try some. It seems that
       | they haven't "Americanized" it as much as many other ethnic
       | restaurants - though I haven't had real Ethopian food so I don't
       | actually know that for sure.
       | 
       | I wish that Americans would stop paying for shitty versions of
       | other cultures foods. I live in a huge city with lots of people
       | of a certain south-east Asian ethnic group. I am also married to
       | a south-east Asian of said ethnic group. We have tried every one
       | of the available restaurants and not a single one of them comes
       | even close to properly approximating the food available in her
       | home country (according to her).
       | 
       | In her opinion, this isn't just because of a lack of available
       | ingredients. It is because Americans don't want authentic food.
       | Fix your shit America because we will forever be (along with the
       | UK) the laughing stock of the culinary world with these
       | practices.
        
         | kyleee wrote:
         | Which ethnic group/cuisine are you referring to?
        
         | arkis22 wrote:
         | I hope it's not Thai. That'd be very ironic.
         | 
         | https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/paxadz/the-surprising-rea...
        
         | anw wrote:
         | Haha, I completely agree, but also understand why it happens.
         | There is a documentary called "The Search for General Tso" on
         | Netflix (I believe) that talks about how a staple American dish
         | in Chinese restaurants came to be. In particular, nearly
         | everybody says, "we had to change this and add sugar, as
         | Americans have a sweeter palette than Chinese have".
         | 
         | However, the same thing happens in Asia with other countrys'
         | foods, which can sometimes be good (Shaka Shaka Chicken,
         | Japanese Curry) or perplexing (Cheeseburger Pizza).
         | 
         | Having grown up around a lot of Asian and Asian Americans, I do
         | wish the majority of Americans were more open to different
         | cultural foods. There are so many good dishes from all over the
         | world, that it just seems a shame to miss out on. I can't
         | imagine life without Shengjian bao, xiaolung bao, green onion
         | pancakes, or the host of noodle dishes.
         | 
         | By the way, you didn't mention in particular, but I am guessing
         | the huge South-East Asian ethnic group is Hmong? In which case
         | I'm sure you've tried sweet pork (nqaj qaab zib). If you
         | haven't, or if I'm wrong about which group you're talking
         | about, try it anyway. It's delicious!
        
       | supernova87a wrote:
       | I hate to say it, but I was never a big fan of Ethiopian food,
       | even well before the virus situation. All my friends reaching in,
       | grabbing, and getting their fingers in the communal bread/stew
       | was a real turnoff. Flavors were not that different from other
       | spicy types of food, and it really was the fingers-in-bowls thing
       | that I could never get over.
       | 
       | ps. I know there are ways of individually serving it.
        
         | titanomachy wrote:
         | The restaurants that I've been to had serving spoons, I guess
         | as a compromise to Western norms. The flavours were subtly
         | different from other things I've tried.
        
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