[HN Gopher] AI Gahuku: AI Generator Will Turn Your Photos into R...
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AI Gahuku: AI Generator Will Turn Your Photos into Renaissance
Paintings
Author : superasn
Score : 95 points
Date : 2020-04-13 20:32 UTC (1 days ago)
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| samcheng wrote:
| Someone should do this with the "Getty Museum Challenge" photos
| that are circulating social media right now!
| DeathArrow wrote:
| This is what I've got using chimp pics:
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| https://imgur.com/a/hkG0rJg
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| https://imgur.com/a/YZ3oWUm
| imhoguy wrote:
| That is creepy and genious. So who is the author of the artwork
| now? AI?
| qchris wrote:
| There's actually been some litigation around this topic
| recently. The general consensus seems to be that authorship
| gets assigned to closest version of the person who initiated
| the creation process of the resulting artwork. So, in this
| case, I believe it would be the person that selected and
| uploaded the photo to the service would have authorship--the
| actual process is considered to be more of a blackbox tool
| being used by that person. A (way more) sophisticated digital
| paintbrush, if you will.
| ajmarcic wrote:
| Does anyone have cites on litigation specific to generative
| works?
|
| The nearest neighbor precedent I'm aware of is the
| dismissal of Authors Guild v Google
| qchris wrote:
| I'm not sure about links directly to court cases, but
| here's a couple different general-consumption articles
| from the last few years that address this sort of thing.
| I'm hopeful I didn't convey that the consensus on the
| subject is particularly solid...
|
| [1] https://qz.com/1054039/google-deepdream-art-if-an-ai-
| creates...
|
| [2] https://www.scmp.com/tech/start-
| ups/article/3042811/legal-ex...
| dylan604 wrote:
| Wouldn't this be similar to using Photoshop or any other
| image manipulation tool? Adobe does not get ownership of
| output of their software. Why would we think some random
| website offering image manipulation would be different? As
| you say, the software is just a tool in the image creation
| process.
| thatguy0900 wrote:
| Presumably this chimp image wasn't his, so would the new
| picture be owned by him still?
| maxander wrote:
| That is extremely Hieronymous Bosch.
| retSava wrote:
| Holy smokes - the second one was unnerving to say the least!
| superfamicom wrote:
| Tips for best results: no teeth, no beards, no dark skin, looking
| directly at the camera tends to make one of the eyes perfect and
| the other wonky.
| mensetmanusman wrote:
| Tips for hilarious results: lots of teeth, lots of beard
| basch wrote:
| This worked pretty well as a test picture.
|
| https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Glynn_S....
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| OR, REO look good. RE1 turned him into David Tomlinson.
| babo wrote:
| It clearly shows a strong bias, practically turns a woman into a
| man.
| imhoguy wrote:
| It is not me! To guillotine! :)
| tomc1985 wrote:
| Can they not use the word "masterpiece" on the site? A
| masterpiece is supposed to be superlative.
|
| You can't call every single output a "masterpiece"
| ElonsMosque wrote:
| I mean I'm aware there probably weren't many black people during
| the renaissance. But it would be even cooler if this worked for
| people with different shades?
| amiantos wrote:
| Maybe this should be titled "nightmare generator" because most of
| the pictures I have tried, especially of my wife, have ended up
| with very frightening distortions. Might be cooler to pair this
| with cubist paintings instead, so the facial defects seem more
| like features.
| hobs wrote:
| Service seems to be overwhelmed.
| leogout wrote:
| I wear glasses. I've tried with many photos of me with glasses
| and it always looks like it can't handle it. Do you think it is
| because it was trained with paintings at a time when glasses
| weren't common ?
| drcode wrote:
| It really captured the personality of our president well:
| https://firebasestorage.googleapis.com/v0/b/ai-gahaku.appspo...
| jw887c wrote:
| Yeah this doesn't work for non-white folk. Just makes us look
| like white folk
| johnzim wrote:
| That's almost for the best. The representation of non-European
| ethnic facial features / skin tones in renaissance art appeared
| to mostly be one of two groupings:
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| 1) Accurate, naturalistic portrayals that almost certainly had
| an actual human sitting and;
|
| 2) Color choices / features that are to humans of other skin
| tones, what that picture of a cat in the still life painting is
| to our feline friends:
| https://twitter.com/chelsesaurusrex/status/99512793958585139...
|
| There are some really interesting examples in this article
| (although explicitly African):
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| https://thewalters.org/wp-content/uploads/revealing-the-afri...
| ggggtez wrote:
| It's not really kosher to suggest that it's "for the best"
| that it doesn't work well for other people. :)
|
| It's not like paintings of darkskinned people don't exist for
| the AI to learn from, even if you don't like the style that
| was used at that time.
| amrrs wrote:
| This is mentioned in their site. Seems they've identified it.
|
| >Currently, we are confirming that the output of the AI artist
| has been biased. We hope to use a wide variety of learning data
| and increase the diversity of output in the future.
| kristopolous wrote:
| Great work, calling it The Hapsburger would be amazing.
| ipsum2 wrote:
| Does anyone have an example to look at? The ones in the header
| are small and darkened.
|
| Edit: here's Trump and Obama, using their official Whitehouse
| portraits: https://imgur.com/a/iWeX9tl. Pretty funny results.
| basch wrote:
| Try this. It's interactive so after you submit, you can choose
| your style.
|
| https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Glynn_S....
| ipsum2 wrote:
| Thanks - I didn't want to contribute to HN's hug of death,
| doing inference is probably very expensive for them.
| wenc wrote:
| I wonder about that? In most cases once an algorithm is
| trained, running inference is just a function evaluation,
| which is usually computationally inexpensive.
|
| (the training is the heavy compute part)
| notduncansmith wrote:
| One of those exposes a pretty clear bias in Renaissance
| painting subjects.
| mattigames wrote:
| Yeah, it doesn't do blonde hair.
| dylan604 wrote:
| Which is odd because didn't everyone wear powdered wigs?
| Seems like everyone would have a blonde wig (which should
| make things easier).
| hkmurakami wrote:
| Ah title is misspelled, page says "Gahaku", which is a slightly
| archaic term in Japanese for artist/Painter with a connotation of
| being a highly skilled and respected master of the craft.
|
| There's also a sarcastic net slag meaning to the term as well but
| the creators are probably not using the term with that intent.
| cwoolfe wrote:
| Great work! Although it is interesting to me how it doesn't work
| very well for non-white faces. Which totally makes sense given
| that renaissance art training data reflects the time and place in
| which it was created.
| dylan604 wrote:
| From someone that is not an ML/AI evangelist, how is this great
| work? None of the images I've seen remotely look good. I have
| yet to see something that a real life painter not suffering
| from a stroke would be willing to have released.
| smitty1e wrote:
| This is the sort of great work that invites the question of
| whether "can" == "should".
|
| It's awesome that the work of great artists can be reduced to an
| algorithm. That effort is its own kind of art, and will see
| application (e.g. restoration work) far and wide. It could help
| with tutorials for students to get into these older styles.
|
| Despite all of the intermediate goodness, I still want the no-
| kidding product I buy to have had some actual human imperfection
| and idiosyncrasy injected.
|
| As explored by Rick Beato in the musical context here =>
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-8EbHkc8tc
| new2628 wrote:
| I think you give these projects too much credit. They do not
| reduce the work of great artists to an algorithm and they do
| not turn user's photos into renaissance paintings. These
| projects are technically impressive and interesting, but art is
| not going anywhere.
| kumarm wrote:
| Nice. Worked well for me for several photos. Is this model open
| source?
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