[HN Gopher] Show HN: Video conference and synchronized YouTube v...
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       Show HN: Video conference and synchronized YouTube video to do
       fitness in groups
        
       Author : dulyanov
       Score  : 98 points
       Date   : 2020-04-16 15:48 UTC (7 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (www.co-train.space)
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       | ghostbrainalpha wrote:
       | I bought a projector just to make my fitness videos life size on
       | the wall. It sounds lame but it has helped my mental health.
       | 
       | Adding the video conference element is a really great idea. Now I
       | just have to find the best place to mount a webcam.
        
         | rchiniquy wrote:
         | Which projector did you get, do you like it, is keystoning a
         | problem?
        
         | symplee wrote:
         | Not crazy at all. This is where the industry is going anyway.
         | 
         | For example "Tonal" is a work out machine that attaches to the
         | wall, with a large video screen (probably larger in the next
         | generation version).
         | 
         | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdV2U6NxVUY
         | 
         | Regarding your wall projector, it would be cool to have a
         | camera project your image onto the instructors. Then some
         | computer vision magic to grade how close you matched their
         | exercise.
        
           | _curious_ wrote:
           | "This is where the industry is going anyway."
           | 
           | Just because a company offers a product that does something
           | new and different does not equate to where the industry is
           | truly going (as much as founders/CEOs may wish otherwise).
           | 
           | It's more about where the customer/consumers are going...yes
           | you can lead them to an extent, but on that note are products
           | like Tonal actually selling and if so, what clip and density?
           | 
           | I would ask for evidence of adoption of something (beyond
           | just the mere fact it exists) to support the "where the
           | market is going" type of thinking...
        
       | drewbeck wrote:
       | This is great. The UX is awesome. Do you have limits on number of
       | users here?
        
       | dpie123 wrote:
       | Cool app! East to use and fun! Best for corona time!
        
       | vutekst wrote:
       | I want this but just for watching general youtube videos sync'd
       | with people
        
         | jvm_ wrote:
         | There have been these posted here, I forget their names though.
         | 
         | I've been thinking of doing some with all my Aunts watching
         | their 60's-80's home videos. They all Zoom in, watch it
         | synchronized and commentate. Would be interesting to have the
         | family history documented, otherwise it's just an old video of
         | a familiar face in some place.
        
       | thefreeman wrote:
       | Does this handle ad breaks? I think with a monetized video
       | different people may get different length ads at different
       | places. Just curious how this would handle that situation.
        
         | dulyanov wrote:
         | Oh, I think I did not test this. Completely forgot I have
         | YouTube subscription. I guess it should be possible to detect
         | when and starts and handle it. But sudden pauses due to ads can
         | ruin UX especially for fitness...
        
       | werber wrote:
       | It's always so exciting when you have an idea, and then get out
       | of having to make it cause it was posted here first, love that
       | about hn. Great job!
        
       | dusing wrote:
       | Great work, this is exactly what my wife has been doing via Zoom
       | and Youtube with her gym class.
       | 
       | They had been watching the live feed each morning alone and found
       | a lack of motivation since they were used to working out
       | together.
       | 
       | So there is a market for sure
        
       | Zenst wrote:
       | What kind of issues did you have syncing with youtube videos and
       | what kind of latency do you experience?
       | 
       | BTW Great initiative and certainly could use that tech for many
       | avenues like remote classroom, any presentation with Q&A. Few
       | others I suspect, but great start.
        
         | dulyanov wrote:
         | Technically syncing is easy, websocket + Youtube API. The
         | biggest issue for UX though is that a user should click on the
         | video at least once. Otherwise, Firefox will block sync
         | commands.
         | 
         | The latency can be 3-5 seconds for the first sync, when the
         | video is initialized and unbuffered. For the next syncs its < 1
         | second.
        
       | dulyanov wrote:
       | Hey HN,
       | 
       | We've built www.co-train.space to stay fit while staying home.
       | You pick fitness video on Youtube, it plays synchronously for
       | everybody in the group and you see your peers thanks to Jitsi
       | Meet (Zoom-like software).
       | 
       | I am now exercising with my parents every morning and feel much
       | more connected to them. Looking forward to hearing what you
       | think!
        
         | m_a_g wrote:
         | First of all, it looks great, good job! My question is that why
         | do you limit yourself with only fitness? For example, study
         | sessions are a great example that can benefit from your
         | product.
        
           | mistermann wrote:
           | First thing that came to my mind too! Last night I watched a
           | YouTube video with a friend, and we did a manual 5,4,3,2,1
           | countdown to synch, and then text chatted via WhatsApp, video
           | chat of one's choosing could also be used. But rolling it all
           | into one is nice.
           | 
           | It would be nice to be able to do the same thing with a
           | shared Plex server, but not sure if that would be as easy.
        
           | dulyanov wrote:
           | Basically it was the use case for me personally. I had to
           | spend 2 weeks on quarantine totally alone separated even from
           | wife so we wanted to exercise together. But yeah, I think you
           | are right, there are many potential use cases!
        
         | essayist wrote:
         | If I created a Zoom meeting with the trainees, and shared my
         | screen and computer audio running my training video, would I
         | have the same experience?
         | 
         | Phrased in terms of Zoom since I've become oh so familiar with
         | it these past few months. I see the value, since it's probably
         | easier to connect to than a Zoom meeting.
        
           | coopsmgoops wrote:
           | Screen sharing videos on zoom had never been a great
           | experience. I think the difference is that everybody is
           | streaming the YouTube video here individually.
        
             | maerF0x0 wrote:
             | +1 I get about 3FPS when sharing a youtube video across
             | zoom screenshare
             | 
             | edit: on a very highspeed symmetric connection.
        
               | dulyanov wrote:
               | Yeah, we also though Zoom would do it, but sharing screen
               | with a video works too bad.
        
         | weaponizedwords wrote:
         | Great Work! I love the clean layout and the focus on the user
         | experience. I work in the fitness industry and think there is
         | some great potential here. Especially in the personal trainer
         | space. Keep it up! You are on to something here.
        
           | dulyanov wrote:
           | Thanks!
        
       | jops wrote:
       | Nice. Most of the instructors on our system* have pivoted to run
       | their classes online like that now too. YouTube or Vimeo
       | synchronized with a live Zoom.
       | 
       | It's actually working really well for them as they can now open
       | to a wider audience! It's great to see how people have adapted so
       | quickly in the lockdown.
       | 
       | * https://bookwhen.com/virtual-class-booking-system
        
       | symplee wrote:
       | Feature idea: use the webcam to project the watcher's image/body
       | onto the instructor's. Then with some computer vision magic,
       | gamify how close your workout matched the instructor's workout.
        
         | focom wrote:
         | Give a shot at wrnch.ai Disclosure I work there but people at
         | hackathon can pull this off easily
        
         | gberger wrote:
         | That's not how workouts work, though. Each body is different,
         | and people have different skill levels too. It's not like Just
         | Dance
        
         | dulyanov wrote:
         | That could be fun! I saw Sway app doing that for dance
         | movements, but in fitness such tech for sure could be more
         | useful.
        
       | Tepix wrote:
       | This is pretty fantastic, not just for working out. Kudos!
        
         | dulyanov wrote:
         | Glad you liked it!
        
       | ekulianova wrote:
       | Great idea! Tried it with mum, worked quite well!
        
         | BubRoss wrote:
         | It's a little suspect that you and multiple other names made
         | accounts just to post simplistic glowing comments about how
         | excited you are to work out with your mom, just like the person
         | who posted this.
        
           | dulyanov wrote:
           | This was posted by my wife :)
        
       | _curious_ wrote:
       | Really neat idea - I'm a fan anything that helps people improve
       | their health habits whether individually or collectively!
        
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