[HN Gopher] YC S20 Remote Batch
       ___________________________________________________________________
        
       YC S20 Remote Batch
        
       Author : coolswan
       Score  : 126 points
       Date   : 2020-04-20 16:05 UTC (6 hours ago)
        
 (HTM) web link (blog.ycombinator.com)
 (TXT) w3m dump (blog.ycombinator.com)
        
       | drazvan wrote:
       | Applications for S20 ended on March 16th, haven't they? I wanted
       | to apply but definitely could not travel, this change makes it
       | interesting/possible again but I'm not sure it's not already too
       | late to apply.
        
         | cvaidya1986 wrote:
         | Just apply there is only upside :)
        
         | dolftax wrote:
         | "And we're still accepting late applications if you've always
         | wanted to do YC but couldn't move out to the bay area" - Aaron
         | from YC.
         | 
         | https://twitter.com/aaron_epstein/status/1252267533555470338...
        
           | foreign-inc wrote:
           | How many companies from those late applications get accepted
           | every batch?
        
             | gscott wrote:
             | Now that ycombinator takes over a hundred startups it does
             | seem more promising to get in, eventually.
        
         | jeff18 wrote:
         | "And you can submit after the deadline - though keep in mind
         | that if you apply late, we can't guarantee the exact date of
         | when you'll hear back from us with a decision."
         | 
         | https://www.ycombinator.com/apply/
         | 
         | Do it!
        
       | kebman wrote:
       | Thanks for all the great work! Keep it up, and remember to wash
       | your hands! :D
        
       | cvaidya1986 wrote:
       | This is good for the world.
        
       | oliverx0 wrote:
       | I understand circumstances are forcing this to happen, but if
       | online batches are now a possibility, the FAQs should be updated:
       | 
       | "Can we do it without moving to where you are?"
       | 
       | Sorry, no. We tried this once, and by Demo Day that startup was
       | way behind the rest. What we do, we have to do in person. We
       | would not be doing a startup a favor by not making them come to
       | YC events in person.
       | 
       | However, you don't have to be in silicon valley 24x7. If you have
       | a business that requires that you be somewhere else, we will work
       | something out so you can participate in YC events while also
       | being attentive to your business. Usually the founders will
       | rotate between locations, or fly back and forth.
       | 
       | Of course, after the 3 month program, you can go wherever you
       | want.
        
         | TTPrograms wrote:
         | It's sort of crazy to make such a sweeping decision based on
         | one case - especially when remote collaboration tools are
         | improving on a quarterly basis.
         | 
         | Of course statements like this are just rationalizations - not
         | arguments employed to arrive at objective conclusions.
        
           | jjeaff wrote:
           | Ya, that's exactly what I thought when I read that. I guess
           | if that one single company had been an amazing success, they
           | would have just dropped everything, shit down the offices and
           | gone fully virtual at that point?
        
           | vikramkr wrote:
           | Yeah, looking back at it there's definitely a question raised
           | by how it was just one data point, especially considering
           | that this also means there likely wasn't a lot of
           | institutional support on YC's end for the one remote startup
           | as well. It wouldn't be deliberate but if you've just got
           | that one remote startup you aren't going to be really trying
           | to make remote programming work and making all the resources
           | remote-friendly.
           | 
           | For other experiments, YC has discussed publically
           | (fellowship, accepting people with no idea, early decision)
           | there were what seemed externally at least to be well-run
           | experiments with multiple accepted and some longer-term
           | tracking to see how that worked. No remote seems to finally
           | be getting that proper experimentation and treatment, I guess
           | we'll see how that goes.
           | 
           | There are a lot of benefits to in person, I personally prefer
           | working on things in-person to remote (in biotech, in-person
           | really matters), but it'll be an interesting experiment this
           | batch to see how much room there is for fully remote startup
           | development across all the sectors they invest, both in terms
           | of the batch itself and the companies individually.
        
         | snowmaker wrote:
         | Thanks, I'll update that.
        
       | GraffitiTim wrote:
       | I think people will be surprised how well this works.
       | 
       | There are a lot of great startups that will be born in these
       | times. Many of them will be "remote native" -- operated remotely,
       | remote YC, and potentially tackling problems that have arisen due
       | to the remote world we're living in.
       | 
       | After this crisis is over, some things will go back to normal,
       | but a lot of the changes will endure to varying degrees.
       | 
       | I think people are used to the power of in-person connection and
       | physical reality, and most of us are craving it. But an
       | incredible amount can happen in digital reality, and we are only
       | just beginning to scratch that surface.
       | 
       | At _minimum_ it is an interesting and necessary experiment.
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | jjeaff wrote:
         | I also think that some people are better able to get funding
         | and make up for other inadequacies in their concept or
         | implementation thereof by leveraging their in-person skillset.
         | 
         | Obviously, being good in-person and being able to convince a VC
         | of your competence is a skill that likely correlates well to
         | success with a startup, but I doubt that it is one to one.
         | 
         | Just like there are a lot of excellent engineers that get
         | passed over frequently because they aren't good at white
         | boarding, or interviews in general.
        
       | shreyshrey wrote:
       | We have specifically built airsend (https://www.airsend.io/) to
       | solve remote collaboration use cases like this (especially if the
       | use case involves collaboration among multiple teams across
       | organization boundaries). We will be thrilled if YC could check
       | us out. AirSend will be a great addition to YC's online platform,
       | video conferencing and founders forum.
        
       | quickthrower2 wrote:
       | Nice, you can now capture that talent pool that would otherwise
       | not want to relocate to California even for a stint. Hope this
       | becomes a trend once normal life resumes, with YC and other
       | investors.
        
       | MagnitudeFC wrote:
       | What are the odds of this being reversed mid-batch if covid isn't
       | as big of a deal in say July?
        
       | ilikehurdles wrote:
       | How is VC sentiment during the pandemic? My first assumption is
       | that they're more hesitant than usual to invest, but I've heard
       | from peers that some VCs are now working even harder to make sure
       | their most promising companies have the resources to survive past
       | the crisis. Something about lessons learned from the startups
       | that came out of the Great Recession.
        
         | oliverx0 wrote:
         | Currently fundraising. From what I have been hearing, VCs are
         | mostly doubling down on their portfolio and reducing the number
         | of new companies they invest in. Sentiment is strong for
         | companies enabling remote work though.
        
       | ThePhysicist wrote:
       | If they now would be able to invest in foreign companies like
       | GmbHs or UK Limiteds it would be perfect. I understand why they
       | don't want to do that but I think for a lot of companies to which
       | YC could be interesting (us included) it's simply not possible or
       | very difficult to do a flip to a US company.
        
         | kick wrote:
         | That increases complexity drastically for what's basically a
         | third and a sixth of the reward, if even that. I don't think it
         | makes that much sense.
        
           | ThePhysicist wrote:
           | Not sure I understand what you mean by "a third and a sixth
           | of the reward", can you explain?
        
             | kick wrote:
             | Population of Germany and the UK, respectively, compared to
             | the United States (probably a little fuzzy because it was
             | recalled from memory, though). Not only smaller pool of
             | applicants, but also smaller markets.
        
               | jedberg wrote:
               | The market of "Germany" is actually the entire EU, which
               | is bigger than the US.
        
               | kick wrote:
               | Only slightly bigger, much of it is dramatically more
               | poor, and a sizeable portion of it can't understand
               | English, much less German.
        
         | robk wrote:
         | German notary requirements make investing hell compared to us
         | or uk
        
           | hef19898 wrote:
           | My impression was that investments in US entities requires,
           | kind of, a lawyer. So not that much different, if you ask me.
           | 
           | With Germany being in the EU, you can also incorporate in
           | whatever EU country you want. The UK is obviously out for
           | now, but take Estonia for example. Makes taxes a lot more
           | complex for the company, but much less so when compared to
           | YCs way of transforming into a US Inc. with a German / EU
           | local entity. Especially when there are now US based
           | operations.
           | 
           | That being said, there is nothing wrong with sticking to one
           | market. Not the last reason being to avoid the above
           | mentioned entanglements.
        
           | ThePhysicist wrote:
           | Yeah I know that's unfortunate. Maybe we will see some
           | innovation in that area with Covid-19 now, the problem is
           | that the notary system has created a class of wealthy people
           | that will fight vigorously against anything that threatens
           | their income stream, even though many transactions could be
           | done digitally.
           | 
           | The main problem is that you need to appear personally,
           | otherwise it's not such a big deal I find.
        
         | contingencies wrote:
         | IIRC they attempted the same approach in China. They tried to
         | take the US strategy and demand a particular legal structure
         | for Chinese startups that was neither normal for domestic
         | startups nor common for international startups beneath the size
         | of a multinational with deep pockets and switched on lawyers.
         | This was probably a significant contributor to the lack of
         | traction in China, and almost certainly removed by the follow-
         | on program.
        
         | [deleted]
        
       | dt3ft wrote:
       | I'd love to apply for 20-things.com. Would this be a waste of
       | time, given the interest YC board has in Reddit?
        
         | nostromo wrote:
         | Makes me wonder, does YC still have any Reddit equity?
        
           | gkoberger wrote:
           | They sold to Conde Nast and the spun out, so probably not,
           | actually!
        
         | jedberg wrote:
         | They've invested in reddit competitors before. Such as 9Gag.
        
         | snowmaker wrote:
         | You should apply. Whether there are companies we've already
         | funded doing something similar is not a factor in our
         | decisions.
        
           | dt3ft wrote:
           | Thank you, glad to hear it, that helps a lot!
        
         | aryankashyap wrote:
         | https://www.quora.com/Would-Y-Combinator-invest-in-a-company...
        
       | invsblduck wrote:
       | AS IF EVERYONE KNOWS WTF AN S20 REMOTE BATCH IS.
       | 
       | The article doesn't define what an S20 remote batch is, nor does
       | it link anywhere that may indicate just what the hell an S20
       | remote batch may be.
       | 
       | > We are confident we can produce a great remote batch.
       | 
       | I'm sure you are. Thank you.
        
         | jonwachob91 wrote:
         | YC S20 Remote Batch = YCombinator Summer 2020 Batch, remote.
         | It's the same styling they've used for as long as I can recall.
         | W21 will be the Winter 2021 batch, W20 was the W 2020 batch.
        
         | jameskraus wrote:
         | Summer 2020. A lot of people who read HN are probably familiar
         | with the style, so they seemed to have omitted a longform of
         | the abbreviation. Other pages on the linked site call it
         | "Summer 2020", "Winter 2020", etc.
        
         | kick wrote:
         | _Please don 't use uppercase for emphasis. If you want to
         | emphasize a word or phrase, put _asterisks _around it and it
         | will get italicized._
         | 
         | https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        
         | [deleted]
        
         | jldugger wrote:
         | You're commenting on Hacker News, a news forum run by Y
         | Combinator. I think it's fair to assume the broad HN community
         | knows that YC = Y Combinator, and from there that S20 means
         | Summer 2020, and that batch means the set of startups funded by
         | ycombinator. In that context remote should make sense, but the
         | link explains that part.
        
       | ahmedaly wrote:
       | One of the best things about YC is being there at the silicon
       | valley. Otherwise, it would lose one of the most important
       | benefits it offers!
        
       | sdan wrote:
       | As a Bay Area native I wish this hadn't happen, but sometimes
       | radical change creates radical results.
        
         | AYBABTME wrote:
         | Why do you wish so?
        
           | sdan wrote:
           | Well I understand deeply that there's nothing more powerful
           | that in-person connections.
           | 
           | I've witnessed that multiple times when I sneaked into some
           | "exclusive" events in silicon valley.
        
           | xwdv wrote:
           | It erodes some of the Bay Area's attraction for new talent
           | and new companies.
        
             | [deleted]
        
             | immy wrote:
             | As someone who doesn't yet own property here, I'm okay with
             | that.
        
         | gnicholas wrote:
         | This is a single cohort, and they make no indication that they
         | are changing their policy for future cohorts. No one in the Bay
         | Area should care about this one-off change unless they applied
         | to this batch and are worried about the extra competition.
        
       | Four8Five wrote:
       | I wonder if this changes the number of companies that can be
       | accepted. I also worry that this will turn into Startup School
       | 2.0.
        
       ___________________________________________________________________
       (page generated 2020-04-20 23:00 UTC)