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Show HN: Twitch Roulette - Find and chat with streamers who are
streaming alone
Author : mumphster
Score : 584 points
Date : 2020-05-08 12:34 UTC (10 hours ago)
(HTM) web link (twitchroulette.net)
(TXT) w3m dump (twitchroulette.net)
| d0m wrote:
| Quick suggestion: Sort game name A-Z
| mumphster wrote:
| Done, thanks!
| davedx wrote:
| Screw it I'll give this a try! Streaming right now :)
| https://www.twitch.tv/redskyforgeradio
| lemiffe wrote:
| Great stream! Except for the intermittent glitches due to 4g...
| but the mixes were great, keep up the good work!
| zbowling wrote:
| feature request: language picker. saying hi to someone that
| doesn't speak my language has got me kicked.
| laurex wrote:
| What could go wrong?
| neilwilson wrote:
| Yeah, I do this a lot. But it's a useful discipline to make sure
| you push your side project along.
| baalimago wrote:
| I'm guessing my suggestion is also buried by about 110 comments
| by now, but the stream in the UX is far too small and makes the
| actual stream far less viewable than the chat. A viewer doesn't
| view for the chat, he views for the stream, the chat's a bonus.
| To swap the expectation is unrealistic. Twitch.tv isn't a
| chatting program.
| mumphster wrote:
| this was an issue with firefox and I pushed a css fix, sorry
| about that
| Hamuko wrote:
| Is the video supposed to be postage stamp sized?
| mumphster wrote:
| Nope, whats your viewing setup? OS, browser, device, etc? Still
| iterating on this from yall's feedback as we speak.
| mrspeaker wrote:
| I had the same thing - Firefox on Mac. The video area was
| 920px wide, but the video player was only 250x150px.
|
| Also, I went to leave a comment on the stream and it asked me
| to log in. After jumping through the reset-your-password
| stuff and logging in I came back and tried to comment again
| (after refreshing). It said "you aren't logged in" (even
| though I am) and popped up the twitch homepage instead of the
| login box. The query param seemed to be something like
| ?popup=true, then it redirects to https://www.twitch.tv/?no-
| reload=true - which is just the twitch homepage.
|
| [Edit: also, this is a really fun site! Excellent work!]
| mumphster wrote:
| beautiful, thank you. I think this is the same css issue
| around twitch's embed iframe that someone else reported
| earlier. I'll try to get a fix up after I get off work
| today. Thanks for checking it out!
| zbowling wrote:
| I joined someone streaming on PS4. He said he had been streaming
| on PS4 for almost a year and had close to 0 people ever viewing
| his stream.
| A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote:
| I chuckled as it reminded me of the cams roulettes in the old
| days. Still, I liked it. I got a random 'mature' stream.
| mobilio wrote:
| Like Chaturbate?
| m1aw wrote:
| Really cool idea. Thanks for sharing.
|
| I could totally see myself using this more if you added 2
| options, language and game.
|
| Also interesting would be to display not only 0 streams but also
| streams with <10 viewers.
| mumphster wrote:
| Ya I've heard similar ideas with regards to filtering, I'm
| gonna play around with that for sure. Thanks for the feedback.
| haunter wrote:
| Can you use the Twitch tags? That would be even more useful
| than simply filtering by games.
| mumphster wrote:
| Technically ya, its just the route im going through to get
| this data probably has some rate limits that I'd like to
| avoid hitting. Need to figure out how to poke at this in a
| friendly enough way.
| baq wrote:
| filtering by game while obvious also means creating a filter
| bubble - it'd be nice if a you could choose just from
| 'unpopular games' :)
| jerrre wrote:
| I thought about both being able to include and exclude
| games (and non game stuff like IRL, music etc)
| JoshTriplett wrote:
| I'd love to have a "not interested in this game" button next
| to the game, which would add that game to the exclude list
| and spin the wheel again.
| slightwinder wrote:
| Why not use twitch directly as it already has those filter-
| options?
| andrewzah wrote:
| I believe this is a lesser-known feature of twitch.
|
| For anyone unaware, you can go to the Browse tab [0] and
| filter all live channels by a tag, which includes languages.
| You can also pick a game or category like "Just Chatting"
| first, then filter by language.
|
| This is how I discover random korean streamers. You can also
| sort by "Viewers (Low to High)" or "Recently Started".
|
| [0]: https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all
| Demiurge wrote:
| If you want searching by game, or other categories, like
| creative, without seeing the most populated streams, try this:
|
| https://www.streamkick.com/browse
| [deleted]
| darrenkopp wrote:
| Great idea. It'd be great if you could select a game / category.
| Reason is I'd actually be able to have an actual chat with
| someone if I knew something about the game.
| mumphster wrote:
| Ya I want to add this, I just need to figure out a way to
| ingest / filter the data in a way that twitch wont ban my
| account. Looking into this this weekend.
| billrobertson42 wrote:
| If the expose category and tags then passing through the
| ability to filter based on that would nice too.
| olah_1 wrote:
| I found a streamer that was really cool. Followed. Honestly great
| product. It's like StumbleUpon but for streamers.
| pol4ko wrote:
| Very cool idea. I'm having problems to access the website. Maybe
| the high traffic put it down.
| mumphster wrote:
| Just bumped the amount of asgi workers and upped the DO droplet
| size, should be good now, sorry about that!
| brachi wrote:
| just of out of curiosity, what size was your droplet and how
| was your asgi config?
| mumphster wrote:
| had it on a $5 vps with a single worker, bumped it up to a
| 3 cpu vps and 8 workers. This is using starlette + uvicorn
| + redis
| x3haloed wrote:
| We didn't learn our lesson about cam roulettes last time around?
| WorldPeas wrote:
| Honestly, if sites like omegle had just created a dedicated
| pornographic section, it would have drawn that audience away
| from what was otherwise a pretty fun experience.
| jotm wrote:
| That... sounds like a good idea. I wonder why PornHub/etc
| don't try this? Or do they already have such a feature?
| vorpalhex wrote:
| Issues with monetization and proving people are legal age.
| gccxsse wrote:
| Omegle does have a dedicated adult section. It doesn't stop
| people from joining the non-adult section and exposing
| themselves for reactions.
| Rinum wrote:
| Great concept for the winner take all world we live in now. It's
| very difficult to get your name out there in anything these days
| without having to invest a lot in marketing yourself.
| arkitaip wrote:
| It doesn't help that most streams look identical to each other
| when your are browsing the directory, i.e. hundreds of
| thumbnails that look like screenshots of games. There is no way
| to tell them apart.
| mysterydip wrote:
| Agreed. I'd like to see something similar for the app stores,
| but don't think it would work with the magnitude of games and
| apps there.
| polytely wrote:
| Somewhat in the same vein is Steam's new game recommendation
| engine where you have a [popular --- niche] slider so you can
| filter out the obvious results. I wish more search engines had
| something like that.
|
| In general there is so much cool stuff out there on the edges
| of culture, but your really have to hang around in weird
| circles to stumble upon the hidden gems.
| croon wrote:
| I'm doing the cardinal mistake of not having clicked the link
| since I'm at work, but to build on your sentiment:
|
| Is it binary between searching for 0 viewers and not 0<
| viewers?
|
| If so I'd suggest implementing the option of searching for less
| than <arbitrary number of users>, so someone new actually can
| grow a bit from this tool before potentially taking off
| organically.
| hombre_fatal wrote:
| You act like this wasn't always true or that celebrity never
| existed.
| alharith wrote:
| Just to dive deeper into this, with the billions of people on
| this planet, why is someone necessarily entitled to getting
| their name out there without having to invest something
| themselves?
| superbaconman wrote:
| I think a small improvement may be to use an auto-complete text
| box instead of dropdown. The items in the dropbox aren't ordered
| so i can't jump to the game i'm interested in by typing.
| igrekel wrote:
| Every now and then I look at thi. I enjoyed watching people
| coding now and then, I find its a good way to improve my set up
| when I am on a new technology.
|
| That being said, I find it extremely difficult to find streams of
| people coding. Maybe that exist but I'd like something where I
| can pick a platform of programming language or type of dev. I
| know there are a few tags like this on switch but there are
| almost no results and some of them still look like people gaming.
| BredWinner wrote:
| Very cool to drop by and say hello to them. What host did you
| use? It connects to streams so quickly!
| mumphster wrote:
| just a normal cheap digital ocean vps running python +
| starlette and redis as a data backend, nothing fancy at all
| diehunde wrote:
| I got a user whose username ended with a + and the site crashed.
| Cool idea by the way!
| haunter wrote:
| Hmm there was https://lonelystreams.com/ before but it doesn't
| work for a long time.
| mumphster wrote:
| Good catch! Must have used an old API that doesnt exist
| anymore, thanks for the heads up
| haunter wrote:
| Glad you made this new site!
| astuyvenberg wrote:
| This is great! One thing that many HN-ers may not know is that
| Amazon Prime users get a free subscription to give to anyone on
| Twitch.
|
| It'd be neat if there was a button here that would allow a user
| to subscribe with Prime; I'm sure these streamers would love
| that.
| zerocrates wrote:
| You probably can't subscribe to the average streamer with zero
| viewers: you need to an "affiliate" or "partner" with Twitch
| for that to be an option.
| formalsystem wrote:
| twitch is one of the platforms where I feel like I've struggled
| the most to get viewers. just playing my main game like Dota
| wasn't too productive since I'm not a pro or super hot so my
| value proposition there isn't too compelling. Instead I've been
| trying to focus more on streaming myself programming and learning
| new scientific or game programming libraries and have been
| enjoying it quite a bit. My viewer count is veeery slowly
| increasing but almost noone is subscribing, many of my friends
| have expressed interest in watching me so my plan is to start
| letting them know when I'm about to stream to seed some viewers.
| Also I've realized that the more specific your brand is on social
| media the more effective, I've been looking at branding myself as
| a strategy game buff/developer so will be streaming niche
| strategy games and Unity game development every weekend. I'll re-
| asses after a month to see if this plan was effective.
|
| I really appreciate this project as going from 0-1 viewers on
| Twitch where the 1 isn't your friend is challenging.
| macspoofing wrote:
| >twitch is one of the platforms where I feel like I've
| struggled the most to get viewers.
|
| That's expected though. It's also true of YouTubers, and
| Instagram 'influencers'. Because the barrier to entry is low,
| you're competing with hundreds of thousands of other streamers
| for the same set of eyeballs. Except for a tiny minority, the
| vast majority of you will never make a penny from streaming. Do
| it as a hobby, but don't expect to make a living off of it.
| formalsystem wrote:
| Yeah definitely not my expectation to make a living out of
| it, I'm just doing this for fun but streaming into a void
| isn't as fun as streaming to a handful of people at a time.
| On Twitter for e.g it's easy to get started with 0 followers
| since a few insightful replies to posts by popular people can
| bootstrap you. A popular streamer bootstrapping me on Twitch
| has a lot more friction and is a lot less likely to happen.
| thanatropism wrote:
| How do you broadcast yourself coding? Is it terribly CPU (ie
| battery life) or network intensive?
| NickBusey wrote:
| It's pretty common, I do it (shameless plug
| https://www.twitch.tv/nickbusey)
|
| My stream setup is open source on GitLab
| https://gitlab.com/NickBusey/CodingStream
|
| Here's an article I used in my early days to help get going
| https://medium.com/@suzhinton/my-twitch-live-coding-
| setup-b2...
| ViViDboarder wrote:
| I realize it wasn't yours, but that's a really good write
| up! Thanks for sharing.
|
| I've considered doing counting like this before but didn't
| really know where to get started.
| formalsystem wrote:
| I have a Desktop PC that I've built, AMA if you want to get
| started. I have a 32 core Ryzen CPU so I'm really well
| equipped.
| twodave wrote:
| It definitely takes a long view approach. A couple important
| aspects of building a steaming following are structure and
| consistency.
|
| If you give people a clear idea of what to expect from your
| stream and when it will be live, and if you don't make too many
| drastic or sudden changes to either of those variables, then
| those who like your content enough to make time for it will do
| so.
|
| If you keep making changes, show up late or just don't seem
| dedicated, then people won't feel like they can rely on you.
| Because of that, people won't factor you into their decisions
| about how they spend their time.
|
| Glad to see you're giving it an effort! I wish you the best of
| luck.
| andai wrote:
| This! Become part of people's routine.
| fapi1974 wrote:
| You might want to consider some up and coming platforms where
| the competition is less intense, for now. On our platform,
| Spoon, if you stream for an hour you will definitely get
| listeners (it's audio only though). I think that dynamic
| changes as the platform grows.
| namero999 wrote:
| I'm working on https://www.0views.club exactely to try and
| mitigate this problem :) It's a case of sincronicity with GP,
| I'm literally working on it (that's why you'll see the TOP
| streams right now... I'm testing stuff out). Wanna try once
| ready? I want to give the user the possibility to set custom
| tags as well.
| formalsystem wrote:
| Yeah reach out whenever you like, my email should be in my
| profile
| heed wrote:
| That's because discovery on Twitch is almost non-existent. If
| you want to grow your Twitch channel start on YouTube,
| advertise your twitch channel there, and slowly try to convert
| people.
| macspoofing wrote:
| It's not an issue of discovery. There's just too much out
| there. No matter what algorithm you choose, you will leave
| out the vast majority of other streamers. And YouTube isn't
| any better. In fact, it's going through its own mini-drama
| with even established YouTubers seeing their subscription
| counts going down and blaming YouTube for it, when in
| reality, there are just too many people creating content.
| arkitaip wrote:
| It really is about discoverability, though.
|
| On Youtube, everything is about producing enticing videos
| and if you do a great job, the algo will favor you even if
| you are a small channel. Youtube search plays an important
| part in all of this.
|
| On Twitch, the unit of interest is the live stream and that
| is much more difficult to produce content around. It also
| makes finding interesting streams challenging because
| search doesn't work well with this type of content. Heck,
| you can't even query the directory for basic stuff like
| [show me streamers living in Sweden who usually stream GTA
| 5 RP].
| chongli wrote:
| Yeah. Generally the way to become established on Twitch
| (without relying on YouTube) is to become part of a pre-
| existing community as a viewer and subscriber yourself, and
| then to receive raids from established streamers in that
| community.
|
| Most of my viewing experience is with retro game speedrunning
| and the specific advice for that community is to pick a game
| you want to learn and follow the best players. The world
| record holders and their friends tend to be very happy to
| share advice and tips for their game with new runners. This
| is great because it helps you establish a relationship with
| them without being "that guy" who is just there to try and
| promote his streaming channel (those people are universally
| reviled and often banned for unsolicited promotion). Instead,
| if you're a legitimate member of the community, learning and
| improving at the game, then the big streamers may be happy to
| send you a raid.
|
| It's very much not a get rich quick scheme. It's more like
| moving to a small town. You need to put yourself out there
| and ingratiate yourself to the community in order to gain
| trust and become a respected member. The above advice should
| be largely adaptable to any form of streaming with an
| established community.
| formalsystem wrote:
| This is great advice, contribute to various Discord and
| Slack communities and once you establish trust start
| plugging your stream and even have various people from the
| community as guests. I guess key is to give give give
| before you expect people to reward you with their
| attention.
| hoorayimhelping wrote:
| I've found quite a few streamers I really enjoy this way.
| They always have people coming into the stream saying, "saw
| you on YouTube, thought I'd check out the stream."
| formalsystem wrote:
| Also great advice, Youtube is better for well edited content
| and I have been teaching myself Da Vinci Resolve and have
| gotten a lot better at it over the past few weeks. Once that
| takes off, it may be easier to cross pollinate my Twitch
| channel.
| NoodleIncident wrote:
| I think "1 friend" puts you ahead of more streamers than you'd
| think, if they're actually watching. They can at least give you
| feedback about what is and isn't entertaining
| zahrc wrote:
| Network; network, network. Get known outside your stream.
| Discord and twitter are very good platforms for that. There are
| several hashtags on twitter and multiple discord servers for
| content creators which are highly moderated. This blog and the
| OPs discord has helped me a lot:
| https://medium.com/@jomosenpai/a-growth-hackers-guide-to-gro...
| there is also the subreddit /r/twitch_startup... avoid
| /r/twitchstreams at all cost. No moderation there
|
| Visibility. Dota and the likes have a large audience and are
| very easy to stream. Take a twist on it, or stream something
| else so you are easier to find.
|
| Stream quality and viewer interaction. Talk to your chat and
| say their names as often as possible. In addition to that, have
| fancy overlays, a good cam and a good mic.
| eterm wrote:
| Most the big streamers got to where they are by view botting,
| the "fake it til you make it" approach.
|
| I'm not recommending that, it's something that Twitch are
| hotter about catching and banning these days, but it has meant
| that there has been an entrenched set of "big streamers" for
| some time now with less ability to break in.
|
| Really the only way is to be playing a game for a while that
| suddenly gets big so you can be one of the better players for a
| while, or be playing a niche game that a 'big streamer' happens
| to play and you'll pick up some viewers when they inevitably
| move on to the next thing.
| formalsystem wrote:
| I hear you, I'm sure some streamers got to where they are
| with sketchy policies but for the most part the streamers I
| follow are either Dota 2 pros that have spent years of their
| life getting good at the game and also stream very
| consistently (almost everyday) while still being entertaining
| for 3-5 hours at a time, they also have dedicated editors
| which will do shorter clips with the occasional meme on
| youtube if you weren't able to catch the stream live.
|
| For programming related streams I follow Jonathan Blow
| because he has a unique viewpoint around programming and also
| because I trust him because he's shipped multiple succesful
| games.
|
| Be succesful IRL seems to be one of the best ways to get a
| popular stream.
| glacials wrote:
| > Most the big streamers got to where they are by view
| botting, the "fake it til you make it" approach.
|
| I'm sorry but this is not true. There have however been
| perception issues around viewbotting. One such:
|
| For most of the life of host mode when a small stream would
| get hosted by a big stream, nearly all of the transitioned
| viewers would stay (through inaction) in the host's channel.
| Many would be AFK. The small streamer ends up with a large
| viewercount but a disproportionally "dead" chat, leading to
| cries of viewbotting.
|
| Coincidentally, big-to-small hosts like this are frequently
| how fantastic but relatively undiscovered streamers get their
| "big break", further entangling the accusations with their
| success.
|
| Source: Worked for five years at Twitch, built host mode
|
| (PS: As someone who became good friends with some of these
| "big streamers" and those at Twitch combatting viewbotting, I
| can't help but feel insulted on both their behalves that the
| amount of invisible effort they pour into their craft so
| frequently gets shat on.)
| VectorLock wrote:
| Sounds like from your description host mode is essentially
| Twitch driven viewbotting.
| fenwick67 wrote:
| > > Most the big streamers got to where they are by view
| botting, the "fake it til you make it" approach.
|
| > I'm sorry but this is not true.
|
| How can you possibly claim you know that most big streamers
| never used bots or bought views? None of them would ever
| tell a Twitch employee if they did. If you had the capacity
| to detect all bots then there would be zero botting on the
| platform, which is certainly not the case.
| lovehashbrowns wrote:
| How are you going to question a Twitch employee but not
| someone making the absurd claim that "most of the big
| streamers got to where they are by view botting"?
|
| The bigger streamers that weren't already famous have had
| followings for many years, going from few viewers to the
| thousands they get now. Saying most of them view botted
| is pretty wild. I'd love to see some actual evidence..
| fenwick67 wrote:
| Buying follows is an open secret on Twitter and
| Instagram, and I personally had my twitch credentials
| stuffed to have my account follow accounts with 1 video
| and thousands of followers
| tomlagier wrote:
| And were any of those accounts that you followed "big
| streamers"?
|
| The fact that botting exists does not mean that's how
| most big streamers got started.
| lovehashbrowns wrote:
| This is not like Twitter or Instagram where you get
| things or clout purely on your follower numbers. Twitch
| has viewer counts during a livestream, and it's easy to
| tell botted accounts or inflated viewer counts based on
| chat participation. It's relatively easy to spot inflated
| viewer counts when there are 1,000 viewers on a channel
| but very few comments in the chat, for example.
|
| And most streamers have a long history of streaming. For
| example, some of the bigger ones I can think of, Reckful,
| Destiny, Lirik, Alinity, Tyler1, Day9, etc.
| hombre_fatal wrote:
| > had my twitch credentials stuffed
|
| "Credential stuffing" is such a goofy, overly fancy term
| for reusing or having a crappy password.
| jason0597 wrote:
| That's interesting! I would watch it
|
| What's your Twitch name?
| formalsystem wrote:
| Thank you, I really appreciate that.
| https://www.twitch.tv/videos/606535356
|
| I'm slowly getting better at it too and am planning on
| streaming some Julia Differential Equations stuff tomorrow
| PST.
| kart23 wrote:
| Yes, starting off with your friends just being in chat is very
| useful. Itll attract more people, and if you show that you have
| a good little community, then they will stay, bringing more
| people.
| jupp0r wrote:
| Isn't this already there and called Omegle?
| Kiro wrote:
| Did you miss the Twitch part?
| mrkramer wrote:
| Interesting idea, I think this should be standalone product. On
| the other side when I see ChatRoullete it is very popular but for
| some reason not commercially successful.
| soylentcola wrote:
| Heh...spun the wheel a few times and found someone's re-broadcast
| of the BBC4 stream.
| philliphaydon wrote:
| Anyone else using Firefox? It doesn't appear to work very well in
| FF :(
| mumphster wrote:
| interesting, ill test in a bit. The only javascript on the page
| is from twitch for its embed API, everything else is just some
| really basic html and server side rendering, so I'm curious
| what would be breaking
| gorhill wrote:
| On my side, when I use `grid` instead of `table` for the
| `.row` style, the `min-height` of the video row is respected,
| otherwise it's disregarded for a reason I do not understand.
| mumphster wrote:
| thats uh, weird. I'll look into that, thank you for digging
| into the issue.
| gorhill wrote:
| Simple solution: set the `min-height: 600px` on the
| Twitch `iframe` instead of on the `.embed` class.
| mumphster wrote:
| Sorry this took so long, added this fix, as well as basic
| filters. Thanks again for the help!
| doublerabbit wrote:
| I get a blank white page within Palemoon and Firefox within
| Linux.
| mcbits wrote:
| It works intermittently. I think it's just being hugged to
| death atm.
| AmazingTurtle wrote:
| Would be nice if you could filter those fortnite kiddies
| rnotaro wrote:
| It's broken now because of API changes but it's the same concept
| as LonelyStreams (https://lonelystreams.com).
|
| It's always fun to see some begginner streams.
| paraxisi wrote:
| Quite a nice idea, well done! Very minimalist and clean as well.
| Few pieces of feedback after playing with it for a few minutes-
|
| Not sure if I'm getting unlucky or the results are cached but
| quite a few of the streamers who popped up were offline. Using
| the twitch api under the hood I assume?
| mumphster wrote:
| Ya due to the way getting acess to this works, theres a 10
| minute cache of active streams that get expired in redis and a
| cron job pulls in a fresh list
| the_duke wrote:
| If you are not already, you could use the GraphQL API that
| the web app uses, which provides sorting by viewers ASC. That
| would allow for much more up to date results than iterating
| the full list with the official API.
|
| Not sure how happy Twitch is about external users, but it can
| be accessed quite easily with some tinkering.
| mumphster wrote:
| This is exactly what its doing, albeit caching results,
| somce im trying to be nice. Official api sadly does not
| allow sorting by asc.
| VectorLock wrote:
| Hopefully they're cool about it. Typically companies like
| this frown upon ersatz API usage and cache/rehosting of
| their data.
| riteshpatel wrote:
| Is there a reason for a 10 minute cache duration? Even 1
| minute would be fine from a performance point of view
| mumphster wrote:
| So I'm not hitting the api too much, this is going through
| a roundabout way to get this data
| mumphster wrote:
| Hey folks, thanks for the great feedback. I'm going to continue
| going through these threads and iterate on this idea some more
| this weekend.
|
| Feel free to give me a follow on my twitch channel
| https://twitch.tv/ellg -- I do a lot of programming on there and
| would love to have some more people stop by and chat :)
| Pfhreak wrote:
| As someone who has periodically streamed, consider dropping a few
| chat messages when you land. Twitch's metrics are slow to update
| and it is not always clear when someone is watching.
| slashink wrote:
| Hello! I work on the video platform @ twitch. We've been
| working a lot on that issue. Viewer count numbers should be
| significantly faster today and will get even more responsive
| soon!
| bryan_w wrote:
| Oh joy, more background JavaScript
| ben509 wrote:
| I'd be interested in a short note on what made it slow / what
| makes it fast.
| flgr wrote:
| Having spent a lot of time working on making the backend
| compute this with very low latency, you wouldn't believe how
| happy finally seeing this become a reality on the actual site
| would make me. :)
|
| Thank you /a lot/ for working on this!
| raziel2p wrote:
| As a viewer I'm not sure I'd like this happening but for
| smaller streamers, a notification/message telling you that a
| viewer has joined or left might be useful.
| arkitaip wrote:
| Please don't. I would avoid certain stream if I knew they
| were told that I've joined/left because I do that quite
| frequently without saying anything and don't want to come
| across as an asshole.
| AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote:
| As a streamer I would say that a streamer should never act as
| if no one is watching. Many viewers never feel like chatting
| and that's fine. And sometimes people will watch vods after the
| fact. For myself, I purposely disable the metrics so that my
| mood can't be affected by viewership numbers.
| InafuSabi wrote:
| Proper attitude. I run radio based streams. That means I
| always have to work with 100% concentration on _mixer_ /
| __twitch __. Even though I leave the metrics on, the work is
| always done for a (fictional) audience, otherwise the quality
| of my recording suffers (I record all my live session with
| audacity)
|
| I stream for artistic expression, BTW so an audience or not
| matters little
| VectorLock wrote:
| >I purposely disable the metrics so that my mood can't be
| affected by viewership numbers.
|
| Thats a great tip, I didn't even know that was possible with
| Twitch.
| vpzom wrote:
| Why is the stream area tiny?
| mumphster wrote:
| You can full screen it, I went with the lazy max fixed width
| approach for "responsive".
|
| This whole project is about 4 hours total of dev time, so any
| feedback like this is nuch appreciated, thanks.
| MilnerRoute wrote:
| Singer Ben Folds once did this during a huge concert. So random
| people looking for a video chat would suddenly see a man on a
| stage in front of a huge audience...singing a song about them.
| ("Hello Mr. Shirtless Man. How are you doin' today? Is it hot in
| there...?")
|
| https://www.pigdog.org/auto/viva_la_musica/link/3203.html
| 98codes wrote:
| The concert(s) in question:
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhJyX08GecU
| geddy wrote:
| I remember quite a while back, Chat Roulette song improv was a
| big thing. It was the guy in the hoodie - PianoChatImprov on
| Youtube. I just looked it up and, wow, that was 10 years ago.
|
| This was also before Chat Roulette became nothing but dongs.
| beshrkayali wrote:
| the question is, would it be possible to implement something
| like that in a way where dong shows don't take over? What is
| it exactly that turned chat roulette into that?
| OJFord wrote:
| > What is it exactly that turned chat roulette into that?
|
| Being on the internet?
| thatcat wrote:
| Yea, discord can detect dicks. I'm guessing that the
| hotdog/no hotdog algorithm is advanced enough by now.
| chipperyman573 wrote:
| Really? I've never been in a group where one is sent,
| does it block it or just mark it as NSFW?
| thatcat wrote:
| There might be a setting for the room, I've seen it
| marked as explicit content prevented from uploading and
| it doesn't show the picture.
| seph-reed wrote:
| I still play piano on omegle occasionally. Dudes will
| cancel the chat immediately.
|
| One time I got a girl who was just talking about her shitty
| relationship with the chat on mute. I had to skip her
| myself.
| dec0dedab0de wrote:
| * would it be possible to implement something like that in
| a way where dong shows don't take over? *
|
| Having an option to mark yourself as NSFW, and to decide if
| you want to see NSFW cams would go a long way.
| chipperyman573 wrote:
| IIRC they had this and only guys used it (because only
| guys were naked on chatroulette to begin with) so nobody
| used it.
| Nursie wrote:
| I'm kinda surprised there was a "before" in that situation. I
| presumed that was what was going tonhappen from the get-go.
|
| Perhaps I am too cynical.
| toyg wrote:
| Sadly, no. At the beginning it was mostly random people.
| Unfortunately, you need very little to ruin things - most
| normal people will not play even with a 10% chance of
| getting a dong, and the more "normies" leave, the higher
| that chance gets, in a vicious circle.
| trianglem wrote:
| In these confusing times I sometimes tend to forget that
| being a normie is a good thing.
| TeMPOraL wrote:
| That's not the definition of 'normie' I'm familiar with.
| In fact, I'd expect normies to be the ones showing dongs.
| recursive wrote:
| Normie means unremarkable middle-of-the-road as far as I
| know.
|
| Showing dongs in anonymous video chats is not what I'd
| expect from a normie.
| stronglikedan wrote:
| Maybe it just normalized to be _only_ "normies", and
| normal people just happen to really like dongs, even if
| unspoken?
| artursapek wrote:
| You'd think with the state of machine learning these days
| someone could have another go at it, and ban users who show
| their dongs
| glasenator wrote:
| Not Hotdog
| zankly wrote:
| I feel that this is a violation of trust. A lot of users are
| there to talk to another person, they're not necessarily ready
| or willing to be shirtless in front of tens of thousands of
| people. If I was on a jury and there was a lawsuit, I would
| award damages.
| domador wrote:
| Isn't showing up shirtless to a video chat with a stranger a
| huge violation of trust in itself? I'd be much more inclined
| to consider "shirtlessness" (to give this phenomenon a short
| name) to be a sign of aggression, rather than of innocence
| and of trust in others.
| lopmotr wrote:
| They're clearly OK with exposing themselves to strangers
| because that's the reason they're doing it. How does the
| number of strangers matter? If they were shy, they could have
| put their shirt on before going out in public.
| stale2002 wrote:
| The other stranger did not consent to being situation where
| the rando was shirtless, though.
|
| Them being shirtless without telling the other person in
| advance, is harm that theyd be causing in the first place.
| electricviolet wrote:
| This is why we can't have nice things :(
| ubercow13 wrote:
| What would the lawsuit be for?
| hassaanm wrote:
| I made a similar site as part of a hackathon at Twitch:
| https://twitchraids.com
|
| The idea is to raid random channels together with everyone on the
| site. Channels are randomly selected and rotate every 5 minutes,
| and the channel selection function gives preference to smaller
| streamers. Users vote on which channel to raid next.
| mumphster wrote:
| Neat! I've had this idea in my head for a while but could never
| find a good way to get the data in a way I wanted it. Really
| neat app though, good work
| chipperyman573 wrote:
| This is interesting because you can incentivise people to go to
| other streams by offering them multipliers for every raid they
| join (or something). You'd have a network of people who are
| watching ads for the chance of having their ad watched!
| parsimo2010 wrote:
| This is awesome. I imagine that you get some neat reactions
| when a streamer gets a ton of attention they weren't expecting.
| xmprt wrote:
| Which TwitchCon did you go to? I had the exact same idea but my
| team ended up going with something else. It's cool that you
| ended up actually hosting it after the hackathon ended. Do you
| know how many people are still using it?
| hassaanm wrote:
| I actually made the site during an internal Twitch hackathon
| about 2 years ago. The site shows the current number of
| viewers on the site.
| VectorLock wrote:
| I always wonder how Twitch streamers manage to go from 0 to N
| thousand viewers. What is the most effective way people are using
| to self-promote? I've seen a lot of panels at PAX talking about
| how to "grow" streaming but nothing about how to "bootstrap" an
| audience. This seems like it could be a cool way to do that, if
| not even just find people to talk to.
| sbuccini wrote:
| I just listened to a little kid play Fortnite while I did some
| work in the background.
|
| He was very excited to have some unexpected random viewers which
| made my day.
| ryeguy_24 wrote:
| This was so much fun to test out this morning. Most streamers who
| saw me come in were so excited to have a viewer. Nice idea.
| MarioMan wrote:
| On a related note, there used to be a site, https://twitch-
| tools.rootonline.de/, where you could find "uncategorized"
| streams with no game set. All sorts of strange broadcasts live
| there, from pirate sports casts to whole movies streamed to the
| most random garbage, but the owner took most of the site down
| after Twitch requested that they stop scraping the site
| (https://twitter.com/CommanderRoot/status/1250486976547106821). I
| haven't been able to find any alternative services that offer
| this. If anyone has such a service, I'd love to go surfing around
| the strange part of Twitch again.
| LockAndLol wrote:
| I don't know how it works, but it would great to check if the
| streamers are streaming. Clicked on multiple streams that weren't
| live.
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