[HN Gopher] How the biggest consumer apps got their first 1k users
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       How the biggest consumer apps got their first 1k users
        
       Author : maxgt
       Score  : 67 points
       Date   : 2020-05-24 08:45 UTC (14 hours ago)
        
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       | CM30 wrote:
       | Surprised the Reddit 'solution' to this (fake accounts and
       | activity until real people decide to join) isn't on the list.
       | Fake it til you make it is definitely a strategy that a fair few
       | successful products, services and communities used to kick things
       | off.
        
         | petargyurov wrote:
         | Surely things like that end up backfiring? People on reddit
         | have a strangely good eye when it comes to spotting "shills" in
         | the comment sections. Then again it could just be paranoia.
        
           | chucksmash wrote:
           | Parent isn't saying you should create Reddit accounts to
           | shill for your new thing.
           | 
           | They are referencing the sock puppet accounts the Reddit
           | founders used to make Reddit look like less of a ghost town
           | in the early days[1].
           | 
           | > Huffman reveals that, "In the beginning Alexis and I
           | submitted all the content." When they submitted content they
           | created new fake user names so that it would look like the
           | site was populated with a large user base, while, at least in
           | the beginning, it was just the two of them submitting the
           | content.
           | 
           | > Huffman explains that this did two things. For starters, it
           | helped set the tone of the site. "Websites have this kind of
           | inertia, and we submitted content that we would be interested
           | in seeing. That meant the content on Reddit, at least for our
           | peer group, was good, interesting stuff. We wanted a site
           | with the most interesting content online, and so we did our
           | best to find it and then we submitted it ourselves."
           | 
           | > Creating fake users and submitting content through them
           | also made the site feel alive. Huffman says, "Users like to
           | feel a part of something. If they showed up to the website
           | and the front page was blank, it just looks like a ghost
           | town." He says, "At the time I think we were just embarrassed
           | to have an empty website so we submitted the content, and it
           | worked." After a few months they had grown their real user
           | base to the point that they didn't have to submit content
           | anymore.
           | 
           | [1]: https://www.adweek.com/digital/reddit-fake-users/
        
             | petargyurov wrote:
             | Ah now that I re-read their comment I can see that I
             | misinterpreted it. For some reason I was thinking along the
             | lines of buying upvotes to get your post to the frontpage,
             | which is of course pretty shitty.
        
         | jedberg wrote:
         | That's not a strategy to get new users though. It makes a
         | social site more appealing to new users, but it doesn't attract
         | them.
         | 
         | Reddit used the "tell your friends" method first, and then
         | "have PG blog about us", which really accelerated their growth,
         | and falls under "Leverage Influencers".
        
       | petargyurov wrote:
       | > Get Press
       | 
       | Always wondered about this - do I just email an news outlet and
       | tell them "my story" and see if they roll with it?
       | 
       | I'm starting to advertise my business around with the idea of
       | growing a userbase before the official release. Ironically enough
       | mentioning a link to it on my previous HN comment lead to more
       | visitors than either of the Facebook or Reddit ads that I put up.
       | 
       | With that said, if you're into 3D printing, see https://makely.me
        
         | fxtentacle wrote:
         | That's what I did with my audio app. After we got featured in
         | the first magazine, I just sent that link to other magazines
         | and offered interviews and giveaways.
        
           | petargyurov wrote:
           | Interesting. I am curious, did the giveaways yield any
           | significant rise in users when compared to not doing a
           | giveaway?
        
       | sharker8 wrote:
       | What's that first app in Create FOMO, the logo with the Bill
       | Murray lookalike's face? Honest question, not trolling.
        
         | brandnewlow wrote:
         | Clubhouse
        
         | aaronbrethorst wrote:
         | Clubhouse, apparently? Which is some kind of faddish social
         | networking app that will never be heard from again after they
         | run out of their current round of funding, I assume?
         | https://www.wired.com/story/what-is-clubhouse-why-does-silic...
        
       | paulryanrogers wrote:
       | > Corey's plan was to infiltrate these communities. He wouldn't
       | announce himself as a Netflix employee. ... and slowly, over
       | time, alert the most respected commenters, moderators, and
       | website owners about this great new site called Netflix.
       | 
       | Strikes me as unethical. Unless their alerts disclosed the
       | relationship.
        
         | alain_gilbert wrote:
         | What's unethical about it ?
         | 
         | He talk about something that might be of interest for these
         | people.
         | 
         | It doesn't sound like he was spamming or doing anything
         | annoying.
         | 
         | It sounds to me like a more human way of doing advertisement.
         | The only difference is that he is actually there to have an
         | actual conversation about it.
        
           | gdhbcc wrote:
           | Generally advertising regulations require you to disclose any
           | relationship with the company.
           | 
           | That's why youtuber put #ad on their videos
        
         | BigChiefSmokem wrote:
         | Unethical would be being asked about your relationship with the
         | company and lying about it.
        
           | unclebucknasty wrote:
           | https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lying_by_omission
           | 
           | Also see: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie + Find in page:
           | "Lying by omission"
        
       | jedberg wrote:
       | I used to do that Apple store trick with reddit.
        
       | jhgg wrote:
       | Discord's first cohort of users came from the final fantasy XIV
       | subreddit - after a friend of the cofounder posted there after
       | trying out the app. It's been all uphill from there.
        
       | franciscop wrote:
       | Oh I used to do the Apple store one when I had a music band on my
       | myspace-years. Being a post-hardcore band I don't think the
       | strategy worked very well with the general public, but it was a
       | pretty fun teen thing to do.
        
       | blueside wrote:
       | This article fails to include how Airbnb really got their first
       | users - creating several accounts and mass emailing all the
       | landlords on Craigslist
        
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